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AMA #9: Kratom Risks, Does Infrared Sauna Work & Journaling Benefits
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:42 What Are the Short and Long-Term Effects of Taking Kratom?
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– Neurological Impact and Best Practices for Journaling for Goals, Habits and Growth
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I'm Andrew Huberman,
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and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. Today is an Ask Me
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ado, let's get to answering your questions. The first question
is about kratom. And the question is, what are
the short and long-term effects of taking kratom? For those of you that
haven't heard of kratom, kratom is a substance that
comes from a tree that grows naturally in Indonesia. The tree itself is called
mitragyna speciosa. And it's been known for
hundreds of years or more. We don't really know how long,
but at least for a couple of hundred years,
that when people chew the leaves of this tree, they
experience a mild stimulant effect. And there's also a
process of extraction whereby you can take the leaves
and get high concentrations of kratom that
nowadays is packaged into various supplements. Most often consumed
in capsule form, although sometimes it's
sold in raw powder form. Here's the key thing to
understand about kratom. Indeed at low dosages, kratom
has a mild stimulant effect. However, at higher
dosages, it has what's called an
analgesic effect, that is a painkilling effect,
and it acts as a sedative. And kratom itself acts
as an opioid in the body. This is what's making kratom
a very controversial topic these days. In particular,
because most people have heard of the
so-called opioid crisis. The opioid crisis
has been a term coined to largely
center around issues that have taken place
in the United States, although these issues
definitely extend beyond the borders
of the United States. But the opioid
crisis is essentially the overconsumption and
widespread addiction to opioids. Opioids include
things like morphine, oxycodone, also
called OxyContin, and there are other opioids
similar to those compounds, all of which have the general
effect of being painkillers and sedatives. And in some people,
again some people, eliciting a sense of
euphoria in particular at low to moderate dosages. However, people quickly develop
a tolerance to those drugs and need to consume
more and more of them in order to get the
effect that they initially got from a lower dosage. And they are not just
highly habit-forming. They are highly addictive. And we can distinguish
between habit forming and addictive by simply
saying that addictive means people will continue to take
something or do something despite negative consequences. There are other relevant
definitions of addiction as well. I define addiction more broadly
as the progressive narrowing of the things that
give you pleasure. And indeed, when people
get addicted to opioids, it is a very bad picture. It often hampers many,
many areas of their lives, and seriously so. So the opioid crisis refers
to the overprescription of opioid drugs. That's sort of what it
generally taken to mean. But it also includes accessing
opioids such as morphine, oxycodone, et cetera through
gray market sources through, black market sources,
and on and on. And of course, the
acquisition of the drugs is just one piece it's
also the over consumption of those drugs and, of course,
the addiction to those drugs, which has proved to
be so pernicious. So what does this have
to do with kratom? Kratom is also an opioid. And we'll talk
about how it differs in its opioid properties from
the drugs I just talked about because it is different from
morphine and hydrocodone, but it also has some
similar properties as well. But the deal with kratom
is that a good number of people out there have
managed to wean themselves off opioids such as
morphine and hydrocodone through the use of kratom. And that has been
used as justification for keeping kratom on the
market and keeping it legal. However, and this is a
very important however, kratom itself has also proved
to be not only habit forming but addictive, especially when
taken at dosages that exceed that lower dose that
just generally creates a bit of stimulant, a little
bit of euphoric effect. When people start taking
higher dosages of kratom, it is very clear that it
does become addictive, and itself is very
hard to come off of, so much so that people
experience so-called kratom withdrawal. Now the reason I
mentioned that kratom has been used by a
good number of people to wean themselves off
of the more potent forms of prescription
opioids is that when I solicited for questions
about kratom on social media, it was a very binary response. In fact, there was one
camp a very rabid camp that said kratom is terrible. I took this stuff. I got addicted. It was extremely
hard to come off of. There were additional
comments in there, such as I know
somebody who literally had to go to rehab
because of kratom who developed a bunch of other
addictions because of kratom. Essentially many, many responses
of people who had only bad experiences with kratom. Meaning they liked
it enough at first that they continued to take
it, and it became addictive for them or somebody
that they know. However, there was another
camp that was equally vocal, which kept saying no if one
really adheres to the lower dosages of kratom,
kratom itself can be a useful tool for
getting off other opioids. And there were even a few bona
fide medical professionals, medical doctors that is,
and I happen to know them and their reputations as quite
good, who chimed in and sort of reconciled the two
camps by saying indeed, if one can avoid taking
kratom at all, you should. There is no reason to take
this thing thinking that it's quote-unquote good for you. You would be wise
to avoid taking it because there is a high
probability if you take it at a given dosage or at a dosage
that is going to get your brain and body into a state
of euphoria, analgesia, and the sort of
classic opioid effect that it's going to become habit
forming or addicting for you. That said, these same
medical professionals acknowledged that a fair
number of people that they knew managed to get off of the
more potent forms of opioids such as morphine, oxycodone,
and so forth using kratom. And they said, well if
it's a choice between being addicted to morphine and
hydrocodone versus taking kratom and addicted to those
substances and kratom somehow allowed them to taper
off of those substances, that they would look more
favorably upon kratom if and only if they would
also commit to progressively lowering their dose of kratom
and eventually coming off of kratom. So the general takeaway from
all of that is if you can avoid taking kratom, meaning if
you haven't taken it already, don't. And that reminds me of a
very important point, which a guest on the Huberman
lab podcast Dr. Robert Malenka who's an
M.D. and Ph.D. He's my colleague at Stanford
School of Medicine. He's a world expert on the
mechanisms underlying addiction and dopamine and
drug reinforcement, among many other things. What he said on the
podcast is absolutely true, which is that it is impossible
to get addicted to a substance that you've never consumed. That might seem obvious but
think about that one again. It is impossible to get
addicted to a substance that you've never consumed. So I think the safest
statement to make is if you have not
tried kratom, you would be wise to
avoid it because you stand a chance to
become addicted to it. If, however, you
are somebody that's addicted to other
forms of opioids, you absolutely should talk
to your physician about that and how to get off
of those opioids. But there is evidence that
some people have used kratom to successfully wean themselves
off the more potent forms of opioids that I
talked about, namely morphine and hydrocodone,
as well as a few others. Now if you're somebody
who already takes kratom, you need to be very thoughtful
about the dosage that you take. And you also need to be
thoughtful about the fact that people differ dramatically
in their response to opioids. This is oh so important,
and people do not talk about this enough. We hear, for instance, that, oh,
if people are taking anywhere from one to five grams, maybe
one to six grams of kratom per day, that's keeping
it in the dosage range for which people don't
generally tend to get addicted, you'll hear things like that. And by the way, when I
say one to five or one to six grams per
day, I'm not talking about the individual compounds
that are present in kratom. There are a couple of
different plant alkaloids I'll talk about in a moment
that are present in kratom. And these have different
effects on the opioid system. So nowadays, some of the
companies that sell kratom. And by the way, this is
sold over the counter as a supplement. It does not require
a prescription to purchase, at least
at this point in time, in the United States. Some of these products will have
a higher concentration of one or the other
alkaloids within them such that you can't
really compare one gram of one brand of kratom
to one gram of another brand of kratom because they can
have wildly different levels of these different alkaloids. And these different alkaloids
have wildly different impact on different aspects of
your brain and body biology. In particular, how much
they tend to impact the so-called endogenous
opioid system, OK. So when we talk
about dosages, we have to keep this in
the back of our mind. And we have to keep in
the back of our mind that there does seem to
be a subgroup of people. We don't know how big this
subgroup of people is, but we know it's not everyone,
but it's somewhere between 10 and 40% of people seem
to respond to opioids in a particularly potent way. They really like them. And perhaps not surprisingly,
people outside of that category don't tend to like opioids. I can certainly say
that I am somebody who, when I've been
prescribed things like Vicodin or any other opioid
post-surgery for pain, I hate taking those drugs. I absolutely hate it. I'd rather deal with the pain. They make me nauseous. They make me feel terrible. That said, I know
people who love opioids. It's like a natural fit for
their chemistry in the sense that it tends to
evoke more euphoria. They just immediately
like the feeling. Some of you may remember the
episode of the Huberman Lab podcast that I
did about alcohol. And there, too, I discussed
the fact that about 8% to 10% of people who consume alcohol
get an increased dopamine response to alcohol that's
not observed in other people. And that particular subgroup
of people is very, very at risk for developing
alcohol use disorder, sometimes called alcoholism,
because they can drink in a way and they experience a high
from drinking in a way that other people simply
do not experience. Now like everybody else, if
they consume too much alcohol, they get drunk. So it's not about
the drunk effect, it's about the dopamine
and other sorts of chemicals that are released
in those people in response to alcohol that other people
just don't seem to experience at the same level of potency. So again, with things like
kratom and the other opioids, there's a category of people,
and it's a much larger category of people, again 10% to 40%. We don't know exactly how many
because the studies are not really completed, and there
aren't enough of those studies yet, unfortunately. But when those people
take an opioid, wow, oh, wow, do they like it. And those people, in particular,
are very much at risk for developing an
addiction to opioids. And so those people, especially,
should never ever go near kratom if they haven't. Or if they are
already taking kratom, these are the people
that are constantly ratcheting up their dose. These are the people that
tell you no, I'm not addicted, but if you were to
say, hey, all right, well then let's do an experiment
where you don't take kratom for a week, those are going to
be the people that are suddenly going to get anxious about
the mere idea of that. I've also talked about
this in reference to cannabis when I did an
episode about cannabis. Again I'm not putting
a blanket statement out there about cannabis
as being good or bad. On that episode, I
talked about the fact that cannabis does indeed
have various therapeutic uses. But that there are a
good number of people who rely on cannabis
for anxiety control and other ways of modulating
their brain chemistry and bodily chemistry such
that if you were to say, hey, are you
addicted to cannabis? They'd say no, I don't
have to smoke cannabis. I don't have to take my edibles. But if you were to push
them a little bit and say, all right, well then,
let's do an experiment where you don't
consume any cannabis in any form for 10 days. They don't like the idea
of that experiment at all. So much so that were they
to run that experiment, they would experience a lot
of the withdrawal symptoms associated with addiction. So I can't, in good
faith, say that kratom is safe for everybody
because it is simply not. Now is it safer than
the other opioids? And if so, why? Well, in order to
address that, let's take a short glance at
the pharmacology of kratom and how it works in terms of
its neurochemistry in the body. Now I'm going to keep
this pretty brief because, in the
future, I'm going to do an extended episode
all about opioids, and I will include kratom
in that conversation. But just to back up a little bit
and discuss what opioids are. Opioids are compounds
that can activate the so-called endogenous
opioid system. All of us have within
our brain and body the capacity to release
our own opioids. That's right. You have opioids
within your body. They are released from
neurons, and they bind to so-called opioid receptors. Perhaps some of you have heard
of the so-called runner's high. The runner's high
is a euphoric state. It's a fairly mild euphoric
state in most cases. But it's a euphoric
state induced by long-duration effort, a.k.a. the runner's high. The runner's high
is just a phrase used to explain
that when we engage in long-duration
repetitive action effort, the body starts releasing these
endogenous opioids they bind to receptors, and
they trigger things like analgesia,
relief from pain. They trigger mild euphoria. They tend to change
our perception of the outside
world, make things look more beautiful, shiny. They give things a
little bit of a sheen. What I just described
is a mild version of what people
experience when they take something like morphine. When people take
morphine, there's a more of a sedative
effect, there's more of a euphoric
effect, and there's more of a dreamlike effect. And again, it will
depend on dosage. Kratom and morphine,
and hydrocodone all have the property of acting
like the endogenous opioids but at much higher potency. When you bring them
into your system, they cross the
blood-brain barrier. So they go into
the brain, and they bind to a number of
different opioid receptors. There's the mu-opioid receptor. By the way, these names all
follow Greek alphabet letters. So the mu-opioid receptor,
the kappa opioid receptor, there are a bunch
of different ones. Kratom binds preferentially
to the mu-opioid receptor and somewhat to the
kappa opioid receptor. There's a big
misconception out there. A lot of people,
especially people who are proponents
of kratom, will say no morphine and hydrocodone
bind the mu-opioid receptor, whereas kratom binds the
kappa opioid receptor. So it's a different compound. Very, very different. Not true. Not true. Kratom, morphine, and
hydrocodone all bind to the mu-opioid receptor. And that's what's
largely responsible for its opioid-like effects. Especially when you get
the dosage up to a level where you start getting the
mild sedation, the analgesia, the pain relief. And keep in mind a lot of
people are taking kratom because they want pain relief. And when that mu-opioid
receptor system is activated, it indirectly activates a lot
of the reinforcement circuitry in the brain that relates
to dopamine and serotonin. This is another area that
we'll go into in more depth in the future. But there's been a
lot of controversy. People saying, oh,
you know kratom doesn't trigger the
dopamine system, therefore, it's not addictive. But that is simply not true. It indirectly activates
the reinforcement circuitry that includes both
dopamine and serotonin. But its primary effect is to
hit this mu-opioid receptor system that exists in a
bunch of places in the brain but mainly in the
brainstem in a structure called the periaqueductal
gray nucleus, which then provides pain relief. It triggers a number of
different shifts in cognition. It's what creates that mild
euphoria, et cetera, et cetera. Now how can we be so confident
that kratom is acting so similarly to hydrocodone
and to morphine, albeit with lower potency? And the reason is
if you give people a drug that blocks the
mu-opioid receptor prior to them taking kratom, they
don't experience any of the classic
effects of taking kratom. No euphoria, no
analgesia, no sedation. Even at the low dosages
no mild stimulant effect. So we really have to look
at kratom as an opioid, OK. That's just the honest truth. And if you're somebody who
doesn't like this message because you like kratom,
I'm not telling you that you don't like kratom, I'm
telling you likely like kratom because it's an opioid. So again, if you go online
and you start asking questions about kratom, again, you're
going to see these two camps. You're going to see
the kratom is terrible, it's addictive, it's
everything bad camp. And then you're going to see the
other camp out there very vocal as well, talking about how
kratom helped them avoid other things that are worse. And this is an argument
that, frankly, I don't think we want
to lean on, right. The idea that substance A is
not as bad as substance B. And that making
substance A unavailable is just going to send everyone
running for substance B. That's a weak argument, frankly. I heard this argument
around cannabis. And by the way, I think pretty
balanced about cannabis. If you listen to the
episode I did on cannabis, I think you'll agree that
I believe that cannabis has its therapeutic applications. I also believe that young
people, especially young males with a predisposition
to psychosis, should not be taking
high-concentration THC cannabis. Because the data tell
us they are already at risk of psychosis, and they
are at a much greater risk of psychosis if they do. So I think I'm pretty balanced
about the story on cannabis. But I often hear the
argument oh cannabis isn't as bad as alcohol and,
therefore, cannabis is good. That's simply not rational. What we should be
saying is whether or not it's cannabis or
alcohol or kratom or any substance for
that matter, what are the potential benefits,
what are the potential risks? And again, this is
far too much than we can go into in this AMA. And we will go into in a
future full-length episode of the Huberman Lab podcast. But the other thing
to really keep in mind is the lack of regulation
over kratom supplements. Now as many of you
know, I am a fan of many, not all,
but many supplements in certain conditions. I always say behavior is
first, then nutrition. Then if and only if it's
needed, rely on supplementation. But supplementation
is a big category. But when we're talking
about supplements that are opioid
compounds, I start to get nervous because
of the high abuse potential and the high
addiction potential of opioids. And kratom is included
in that category. A couple of other key
notes about kratom. While death directly from
kratom is fairly rare, it has happened. Now hydrocodone and morphine
suppress respiration. Actually, suppress breathing
by way of a mechanism that, if you're a listener
of the Huberman Lab podcast, you know about. Which is the so-called
physiological sigh. Many of you have heard me talk
about the physiological sigh. Is something that you do
voluntarily the double Inhale through the nose and
then a long exhale in order to rapidly reduce
your level of stress. As far as we know,
that's the fastest way to deliberately lower
your level of stress. But the physiological sigh
was discovered in the 1930s as a spontaneous
pattern of breathing that occurs involuntarily
in sleep in order to reinflate the lungs
and offload carbon dioxide and bring oxygen
back into the system on the subsequent breath. When I interviewed
Dr. Jack Feldman, who is a professor at University
of California Los Angeles and really the pioneer of
the modern neuroscience understanding of respiration,
he talked about some studies in his laboratory that
were exploring why people die when taking opioids. This is a major issue associated
with the opioid crisis. And what he mentioned
was that the opioids bind to particular
receptors in the brain stem locations that generate
physiological sighs. So opioids, when taken as drugs,
suppress physiological sighing and do so during sleep. And lack of adequate
respiration, meaning people stop
breathing during sleep, is one of the primary
reasons why people die when they take opioids. Now kratom is not known
to suppress respiration when taken at low
to moderate dosages. But when combined with
any other opioids, and certainly when
combined with alcohol, it can suppress respiration. And while the data on
this are fairly scant, there is some evidence
that kratom-induced death is caused by suppression
of the respiration system. So again, death due
to taking kratom at the dosages that
are recommended on most commercial
packaging is fairly rare, although it has happened. It's unclear if it
happened because it was taken in combination
with other compounds. That seems likely. But we can't forget
that a lot of people are taking kratom at much
higher dosages and, in fact, progressively higher
and higher dosages from these
over-the-counter sources. And with increased dosage,
there is, yes, an increased risk of respiratory failure. So again, all of this
points to the fact that kratom is simply
not a benign substance. So if we're going
to be very honest, the addictive potential
of kratom is real. It is exacerbated for some
people compared to others, but it is real. It's very similarities to other
more potent forms of opioids are what make it attractive
for some people who are trying to come off those
more potent form of opioids. But the goal, of course,
is to completely come off all opioids. And kratom itself can
be a bit of a trap. It can be a trap in
the sense that people who have never
taken other opioids can become addicted
to kratom itself. That is absolutely
clear that can happen. It has happened in a
great number of people. It's also clear that kratom
can potentially be a trap. Notice I said potentially. Because if people are
trying to come off other more potent
forms of opioids and then they use
kratom to do that, and then they're ratcheting
up their dosage of kratom such that they're now matching the
endogenous response to kratom in a way that doesn't really
distinguish from the effects that they were getting from
morphine and hydrocodone, well then they're just
using a different form of morphine and hydrocodone. And I'm sure that some
of you are out there saying that is ridiculous. You cannot compare the effects
of kratom to the effects of hydrocodone. But the potency is about
one-sixth of hydrocodone. And there are
people out there who are just increasing and
increasing both the dosage and modifying the type
of kratom that they're taking so that they're
getting the kratom that has a particularly high
concentration of one of the alkaloids that hits that
mu-opioid receptor hardest. And in doing so,
sure, they're not getting the pure
hydrocodone effect, but they're getting
really close. So my advice would be, if
you haven't touched kratom, don't touch it at all, ever. If you are taking
kratom, you need to take note of what
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I was on heroin for like 17 years and I couldn't get my life together. I switched to medicated treatment, a.k.a. methadone suddenly I have a good job. I have an apartment I pay taxes. I'm a responsible citizen. I think there is a for Kratom I can't go through life without something I've tried. I've been prison. I've done multiple different paths different ways and what it's worked best for me is medicated treatment. It's either medicated treatment or a spiral down so I think if keatom was a bit more regulated so it can't be a trap to some people. I think it would be good for society. Sometimes we need to knock the edge off because life is stressful so I believe it should also serve a purpose like that as well. These are just my opinions in my experiences. I think it's OK
I know somebody who has been addicted to running.
He had to run 15 miles every morning otherwise he would have a really bad day and was hard to be around!
We are all addicted to chemicals, the body is a chemical system and needs to deal with processing chemicals.
The body likes to process chemicals.
If you don't give it any it feels bored and depressed.
No, LSD have been known to produce psychotic episodes in people who have never taken it!
no doubt it's addictive. now how do i quit?
If youve never taken Kratom please keep it that way!
14:22 RUNNING IS AN OPIOiD, BAN RUNNING -_-
the way he was talking shit about kratom, and then began back pedaling on his cannabis comment is hilarious.
If you would do a special on kratom that would be amazing.
This comment section is a lot less bipolar than you decribed, I see a lot of level headed weighted opinions.
I myself am an MD rheumatologist. I ocasionally take kratom for relaxation purposes especially in times of stress. I figure taking benzodiazepines or Z hypnogens is not much better for your brain.
I must be some sort of a middle average – I just about like what it feels like, but not too crazy, I mainly feel warm and calm, but I also have sicca which kratom makes worse, and after the initial energy rise in about an hour or two it makes me quite sedated for the next 2 or 3 hours (pretty much irrespecive of dose) – all this means I really have to space it and think about whether I can afford to take it.
I'm sure it's addictive though and thoroughly despise when people market it as harmless and a great "bio" hack to do dialy.. that's just pure nonsense. It is a physically addictive psychogenic substance. But those have uses as well.
Most my friends who tried it didn't get sedated or any specific bad side effects. Some enjoyed it, some felt not much different, and a few were nauseous – pretty much shows the distribution in the population.
But in general, banning things on a government level, especially plant based substances, to me is absolutely unacceptable, and there has been good real life data from some European countries showing that clearly prohibition is the wrong way to manage any of this stuff, instead do education and management of safety and quality and you'll achieve much better results.
With a bit of cheek, if you guys sold meth and coke in pharmacies in the US, you wouldn't get people ODing on parties from fentanyl… Sorry but I would say it again. Same thing with teen pregnancies.. but that's for another topic.
Thank you for reading. ❤
Kratom withdrawal not the powder the extracts now the 7OH that’s super strong and it’s like heroin. The withdrawal lasts longer than heroine because it’s stores in the fat.
Well here's a guy with an ego !
Doctors educated by The Big Pharma Monster will never acknowledge that anything natural or not profitable for them could beneficial . My experiences throughout the decades is that most pharmaceuticals have bad consequences ! Also I have a serious aversion to their Inhumane Animal testing cruelty that I believe carries a Karmic Debt ? 😮
My wife has taken it for the past year and it has changed our family life for the better . She was in bad car accident hurt her back and the hospital had her on fentanyl. When she was released 8-9 months later(forgot to mention she was pregnant the whole time and gave birth to our beautiful daughter ❤) the hospital only prescribed some pain medication for about months worth and she quickly started drinking after … to the point where she had to have alcohol first thing in the am like it was coffee . /: it was bad and it was to help with her back pain , one year after she started taking kratom and the good outweighs the bad . She is able to work and move around and function better than ever . . There’s people out here that’s life has changed because of kratom .
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I know it's addictive and ofcourse you don't want to take very high does. This can be avoided just being smart about it, but I was waiting to hear about other Negative effects, but I feel like he said the same thing in different ways. He didn't even mention that it makes you constipated if you take too much. If you over do it you'll shit straight rocks haha. But that can also be avoided. Obviously be careful! But I think the positives can really outway the negatives depending on your situation. I thought I would hear about some really bad things that would make me never want to touch it again. Personally I think that using your best judgement, it can potentially be very helpful if you really do need something and it works. And if your only other options seem to be pharmisuticals, than I'd take kratom 10 times out of tend. Be safe every one! And listen to Dr. Huberman 😉 peace!
I hate click baiting… nothing about the infrared on this talk… BOOOO!!
For nerve related issues and cicurlation and chornic pain i cant decide between a pemf mat or infra red light. Any advice which one?
Kratom gave me chemical reactive gastropathy and severe constipation it should be regulated i didnt know it was bad for your health i took it for 7 years and one day i called 911 thinking it was a heart attack but it was my gut paralized from so many years or use
Using kratom to get off opioid is the same lie as using methadone and Suboxone for getting off heroin. Every heroin addict I've ever met that uses Suboxone or methadone just trades back and forth between the addictions and never gets clean until they just quit completely. Kratom sucks and the people who sell it are definitely not honest about what it really is
Where is the video treating the title section infrared saunas?
I was doing 4 viva zen shots a day each shot was 80mg so i was at 32grams a day. Im 38 and have always smoked weed and played with perks and stuff occasionally when i was in my 20s never got addicted just had fun when ever they came around but never craved anything or had to have it. Kratom had me for 3 years im on day 23 of quitting Kratom and its been hard mentally and physically the shit grabbed me hard and fast. Not saying it will grab everyone but i know for sure it had me. Only reason i quit is because i have my first child coming in june and i didn't want this shit to have a grip on me. Im not saying it cant be used correctly just be careful and mindful of how much your taking its about responsibility with it and for me i got irresponsible and it got out of control
I stayed well away from opiods my whole life after seeing the destruction in friends and people around me.. when I started taking Kratom it was being promoted as "Safe and harmless" by Joe Rogan and those muscle dummy brothers. If I had any idea wtf I was walking into, I would have never even tried it
Ai light algorithm home sauna
Why do they even talk about infrared saunas in the title that's the only reason why I came to this video
Partly very dangerous bullshit information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can be deadly this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Impossible to be addicted to a substance you havent consumed? What about crack babies or babies born addicted to heroin because their mothers were addicted to the drug?
I take Kratom and it has been a good alternative to Ritalin which I was prescribed
Thank you. Re Kratom: is there a supplement that helps with withdrawals and insomnia?
Hi Andrew. $10/mo? Really dude (I can say that being a surfer/skater to another, and we lived and grew up in epic times. Not cool either the $10/mo – you’ve gone YouTube Premium on me. Just want to find out of my lifepro rejuwrap inferred sauna blanket and lifepro alleviated pro belt are great products for my inflammation, joints (skating man) , mitochondria, insomnia, and skin (surfing) bc I’ve watched over 5 hrs of video testimonies on YT and man if everyone isn’t conflicting I’m Tom Curren. Watch’s think of my purchase? Check out how much I watch of your channel. AG1 in my fridge because of you 👍🏼 – Ryan
Why do all addicted people compare kratom with other drugs and give discounts to it? Drugs are drugs. So silly and obvious. Compare ur kratom with black tea or coffee. Yeah, you won't. Its easier compare with something heavy to find an excuse to keep using it
I respect your opinion. When discussing addictive substances, people often attack you, regardless of whether it’s alcohol or opioids. Thank you for being fearless. Other people who protect their addiction – wish u to become more transparent with yourself
Adderall , Xanax and Prozac are drugs that alter your brain many live on them for life not dangerous ? But a kratom is a dark additive drug ? The drugs I mentioned is additive and have detox symptoms like heroine 🤷🏼♀️
Huberman is klown
I would love to hear more about this! Do you have anything else planned on this topic?
Thanks for talking about this! I'm trying to quite kratom right now. I just started my taper. Im glad there are people talking about this in a scientific manner. Thanks again!
Can anyone tell me when he talks about infrared saunas?
Can you do an episode about suboxone?
Bad and very dangerous video, take it off!!!!
I have chronic pain (cervical spondilosis), over the counter pain killers like tramadol, NSAID and paracetamol do not work for me. I use 20g of fresh kratom leaves every morning (as a tea) and it help a lot. I am lucky to live in thailand, it grows everywhere here, it's free, doesn't need to feed big pharma anymore. Kratom is also antidepressor and give me mineral and vitamin: vitamins A, C, E, and K1.
Calcium, potassium, and phosphorus. Iron, magnesium, and zinc. Sodium. Yes it's addictive but if you have chronic pain, it allows you to live again.
Kratom is not an opioid
Kratom is a god send for pain. Take as little as possible to help pain and ween off periodically even though it is difficult and sucks so it keeps working at lower doses.
Was hooked on Vicodin for many years, it was a nightmare.
I’ve taken kratom for 5 years nearly every day for pain from a back injury and consequent horrible addiction to Percocet. It allowed me to easily get off the pain meds and is amazing to keep me moving pain free. From personal experience (and I know everyone is different) I can say that there are huge differences between these 2 opiates. I’ve not changed my dosage at all during this time and don’t expect to, with kratom you find a sweet spot with a strain that works (mine is 5 capsules of green Borneo). I use the same company to purchase from as well. I don’t know if this is considered a light or moderate dose I just know that its impossible for me to take more because it causes vomitting or less because it doesn’t do what I need it to do. It doesn’t suppress my breathing at all like Percocet did – it was actually terrifying. After being addicted to Percocet for awhile it loses its energy factor and made me lazy and depressed. Is it addictive? I guess so – I’ve never experienced a need for it other than psychological when I haven’t had it. Andrew is right though – if you’ve never taken it, why would you? The fact that it’s not as regulated as it should be is a much bigger concern for me but I’m comfortable with the brand I use.
i didnt hear anything about the journaling or sauna benefits. still interesting but i was looking for the other 2 topics also.
I use to have a drinking probelm(Injuries, DUI, legal issues) and I started taking kratom off a suggestion from a friend and I quit drinking within 6 months. I still had alchohol withdraws and didn't quit it cold turkey but the kratom was more than enough to hijack my brain to give me some sort of feeling the alchohol gave me. I still take kratom today and can actually drink like a normal person now in social settings. Kratom legit saved my life.
I mostly just take 2 grams in the morning and it helps me get my day going as I struggle with just wanting to shower because of my adhd and Kratom helps. I only take at max 10 grams in a day and that is RARE.
I'm one of the ones who had to go to treatment to get off of it. Out of all of the different drugs I've done over 25yrs (thankfully 5yrs completely clean now) kratom is the only thing I ever have a craving for. THC, coke, meth, MDMA, LSD, ketamine, psilocybin, peyote, dxm, hydrocodone, oxycodone, Xanax etc etc… kratom is the one i still have cravings for.
Y'all talk down on kratom Because y'all didn't manage your usage properly it's not meant for you but for me it's a tool I use moderately and have found my routine through it plus I train daily
PLEASE DO A LONG-TERM HEALTH EFFECTS FROM KRATOM
Where's the info on infrared saunas?