Patient Preferred Physicians & Practitioners
Pioneer of Holistic Pain Management, Dr. Norman Shealy, MD
Dr. Norman Shealy, MD – “Patient Preferred Presents”
With over six decades of achievements in his field, Dr. Norman Shealy is respectfully known as a pioneer of holistic pain management. He is the founder of Shealy-Sorin Wellness Institute and is one of the world’s leading experts in natural chronic pain relief solutions. He was the first physician to specialize in the resolution of chronic pain. A pioneer in developing safe and effective treatments such as Biogenetics, he founded, in 1971, the first comprehensive pain and stress management facility in the country. Shealy Wellness is respected world-wide for its innovative and successful rehabilitation approaches in over 30,000 patients.
His holistic approach to pain management has landed him on several TV programs throughout the country, including the Joan Rivers Program, Good Morning America, The Today Show, Oprah, and many other local television and radio programs. Since 1971, he has lectured worldwide at hundreds of medical schools, hospitals, and churches with up to 100 appearances each year.
At the International Institute of Holistic Medicine, Dr. Shealy engages in daily responsibilities, including the education of biofeedback, behavior modification, biogenetics, and various treatments for chronic pain. Shealy-Sorin Wellness Institute offers a comprehensive approach that includes, especially in acute situations, appropriate drugs or surgery focusing on major problems where conventional medicine fails. He is credited with the invention of transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator, spinal cord stimulator, and radiofrequency ablation.
Today for his dedication to pain management and for his many achievements in patient care, Dr. C. Norman Shealy is recognized by the exclusive Patient Preferred medical society and is now listed among the “Top 100 Patient Preferred Physicians” of 2021.
To learn more about Patient Preferred Physician,
Dr. C. Norman Shealy, MD, Ph.D, D.Sc., FACS, DABNS please visit https://normshealy.com
[Music] hello and welcome into patient preferred presents my name is jay mcfarland and today i'm very excited to introduce you to dr norman sheeley now dr sheeley specializes in holistic pain management he has pioneered several innovative safe and effective pain treatments and he's the founder of the sheila soren wellness institute now they have successfully treated over 30 000 patients we'll talk to him about his long journey with pain management and how he developed his unique treatments and how he feels about being named a patient preferred physician well doctor first of all i want to thank you for joining us and i want to congratulate you for being named top patient preferred physician for 2021 what is that what does that mean to you you know i i'm just happy to be able to work to be quite honest to me my job is to help people and it is to help people who flunk conventional medicine that's what i've specialized in for 50 years well that's fantastic i want to dive into that a little bit more but first of all i i'd like to know and i'd love to ask this question why a doctor i mean it's a difficult road uh and difficult thing to get into what made you decide to practice medicine at age four out of the blue i announced to my family i wanted to be a doctor i don't know where they came from there were no physicians in the in the family that i know of we had a family doc who was a friend of the family maybe that was it but i've never lost that at age 16 i read a book magnificent obsession and i suddenly wanted to be a neurosurgeon so it's been my life so you're calling almost from day one yeah wow that is that is incredible i'm still trying to decide what i want to be when i grow up so hey as long as you're having fun it's okay yeah that's right and then and then so to become a doctor you knew as as a child you wanted to be a doctor why why did you steer towards pain management and chronic pain management well in medical in medical school i i was somewhat of an uh well i on two occasions i fooled the the staff i made a diagnosis of sarcoidosis of the pituitary one weekend and the rounding down says you can't do that you're a medical student well we actually wrote a paper on it it was the only case it ever had at duke university and then when i was in my neurosurgical residency i was appalled at how we were treating chronic pain in those days since the early 1920s we had been doing something called a chordotomy you take the pace to the operating room take the bone off two layers of the back of the spine and then take a piece of a razor blade i hope it was sterile and break it off and cut the front half of the spinal cord with a razor blade of all things wow to me i thought i thought this is barbarian yeah and it was in my opinion so when i finished my neutral residency i spent three years doing research on pain physiology and i figured out that we could control pain by stimulating the skin and the spinal cord like putting a pacemaker over the spinal cord the interesting thing is when i produced when i presented that to neurosurgeon it was only animal work at the moment they screamed you know it's tough about two years later when i've done only six patients every neurosurgeon in the room wanted to do the procedure and it's still being done all over the world so that's how i came out of the box so to speak by saying this is unacceptable to cut the spinal cord with a razor blade yeah and did you ever think all these years later you would have your own institute and you would have treated 30 000 patients at this point well you know interestingly i thought i was just going to be a neurosurgeon then all of all of a sudden i was being sent 400 people a year for the spinal cord stimulator and i only would do it in six percent of them ninety-four percent of the men had five unsuccessful back operations and were on and they were on perkadan and valium i didn't know what to do with that to me they had already failed so i said somebody's got to find out what to do with all these people who don't fit conventional medicine so on october 15 1971 i decided i started what i call the pain rehabilitation institute and it was a great success from the beginning we we actually at first we kept people in the hospital for a month and i retrain the brain and use my electrical stimulation and all kinds of psychological things but in 1972 early i learned about autogenic training auditing training has been around since 1912. when i learned it in 1972 in 19 yeah 1972 there were 2600 scientific references today there are 28 000 scientific offices of the benefits of auditing training so after a couple of years i went back to get a phd in psychology to understand what does this mean to retrain the brain and out of that i created what i call biogenics now we have 68 different mental exercises for retraining the brain so it's it's the hallmark and all of a sudden i learned all my patients had other about five other diseases they didn't have just pain they had hypertension they had diabetes they had gallbladder you know so it really became a system for treating chronic disease which flunks conventional medicine my favorite statement is i don't know even today a single chronic disease for which i would allow conventional medicine really really it's it sucks i'm being kind but all can all conventional chronic treatment eventually fails if it does not succeed within three months it's never going to succeed and that is a remarkable statistic hypertension let's just look at the common with hypertension 45 of americans have high blood pressure the success rate with conventional medicine using three drugs is 45 that means they have a 55 failure rate right and in the 45 percent who have the blood pressure control most of them wind up with chronic fatigue and if you're a male erectile dysfunction i can control and get off those drugs 99.9 of people with hypertension with no drugs whatsoever wow that is uh that is fantastic so the typical type of patient who comes to you they've already gone through all of these things and essentially given up and then they they come to you as a last resort exactly are when they begin to feel the complications the so-called side effects you know every drug has so-called side effects in fact when i was in medical school i finished 65 years ago when i was in medical zoo it was announced that 16 000 people died every year from taking aspirin wow every single drug has complications ranging from death to heart disease to brain damage immune dysfunction there's no safe long-term drug and we have a lot of people who are on regular prescriptions their entire lives at this point yeah and and not just one but two three four five six yeah absolutely i know you talk about the junctures representing the four main fields of stress and i i've heard you say that that all illness or it derives from these junctions can you can you elaborate on that a little bit yes actually sir william osler who's sometimes called the father of american medicine early in the last century gave a lecture in which he talked about stress as the cause of disease now stress is any pressure physical mental emotional radioactive or spiritual so it's stress leads to anger and anger often leads to guilt and or depression so basically it's more pressure than you personally individually can handle and it doesn't matter what it is if it's eating junk food if it's eating poison and i mean poison today is one of the big ones you know basically the world is poisoned largely because of mon satan i call them on satan because they put out the worst poison in the history of the world ground up oh okay yeah 75 of the rain throughout this country is loaded with roundup wow there there is no such thing as organic in my opinion it is unethical to call something organic unless it was grown in a greenhouse with filtered air and filtered water because roundup is everywhere it's everywhere and it's poison but secondly 72 of americans live in cities where the city poisons you with fluoride right in my opinion the dental industry is more evil than the tobacco industry they started off with mercury being 50 to 60 of silver fillings and that's very poison but round but fluoride has dropped the fertility rate in men from 150 million to 40 million when it gets to 20 million men are infertile and we've had men infertile since the night early 90s down at below 20 million so if we don't get rid of fluoride in the city water within the next 20 years there will be no more babies wow wow i think you also you talked about stress i think a lot of us think of stress as it's just emotional uh but from my own experience i know that stress wreaks havoc on on my insights it affects me physically in a very dramatic way and and so can you elaborate a little bit more on that the kind of the long-term effects of stress okay let's look at certain habits there are five to me absolutely basic essential habits the top of the list and the number one actual cause of disease today is excess weight a body mass index above 24 increases your risk of dying the same as smoking one to three packs of cigarettes a day 72 percent of americans are overweight 36 or 8 percent are truly obese and that means they're 40 or more pounds overweight there's actually an article on this several years ago called premature death and the one cause number one cause today of premature death is obesity [Music] interestingly number two is still smoking 22 of adults still smoke now the next important thing is eating a minimum of five but preferably eight to ten servings of fruits and vegetables a day the average american gets 2.2 right and i always say and french fries and ketchup are not a vegetable dang it so here we are with the average american missing the single most important thing in their nutrition which is antioxidants and vitamins so that 80 of the food available is junk one of my other favorite statements is i went to mcdonald's in 1962. it opened up in cleveland where i lived at the time i took one bite and i spit it out and threw it away and i've never been back really you couldn't pay me i would rather starve to death and go to a fast food restaurant now in the grocery stores eighty percent of the food is junk if it's not in the outer aisles where you have the vegetables the fruits the dairy the eggs the meats don't buy it everything that's in a plastic cardboard can is not good i don't buy canned vegetables just forget about that stuff forget about it now the only thing i will buy is unequivocally pure apple juice i wouldn't even buy any other juice in a grocery store i suppose if you like it you can buy frozen orange juice that would be okay maybe but most of the things have been processed and i wouldn't buy them i don't know any commercial cereal that i would buy none of them none if you're in a box i wouldn't buy it yeah it's junk yeah so now i happen to live on a farm and i have a 50 just 50 by 50 feet garden but i can raise all my own vegetables i don't need to buy any vegetables to save at least and i can raise some of my fruits like you know raspberries and strawberries and blackberries and some pears and apples that sort of thing um but i in the grocery store we go bankrupt they depended upon me that's right and if everybody listened to your recommendations right i i know at your at your institute you have developed some uh very innovative and unique techniques and you've talked a little bit about them uh for treating chronic pain can you elaborate a little bit more on those yeah the interesting thing about tins when i discovered it and when it first came on the market these little gadgets cost five or seven hundred dollars today they're over you don't have to have a prescription you can buy them for 50 bucks online now tens unit you put above and below or on the other side of the paint however this specific acupuncture points you can stimulate which you have nothing to do specifically the pain for instance on the inside and outside behind your ankle bone on either side of the achilles tendon there's bladder 60 and kidney 3. those are two acupuncture points on each side you put the tens on those four acupuncture points and i'll say in pain all the way up to here it'll control it 80 of the time that's all they need to do now there are other types of things but that's just one of them now and i still occasionally recommend a spinal cord stimulator because you can actually put them in now through a needle you don't have to do surgery you just put it in through a spinal needle and that was my original thought but then several years ago or actually five or six years ago now almost i had had an idea that the energy centers the the electrical energy centers of the body the brain is an energy center the neck is an energy center the heart area isn't it you know it's sciatica etc [Music] there these are called chakras in metaphysics i found an engineer who make for me specific chakra sweeping frequencies starting with 5.83 cycles per second and going up to seven times seven point eight three plus two it's completely okay that's that's the frequency and it works if the thing that interested me the minute i discovered it however is that you can put it anywhere in your body and it makes you relax so when you put it on your head is the greatest invention in this history of the world for severe anxiety [Music] i mean you can calm down almost anybody within 30 minutes by using this yeah i say that's a really big deal because right now we're treating anxiety with more prescriptions every mood drug is dangerous it creates it increases your risk of suicide [Music] now i got to tell you my favorite story about psychiatry when i was in medical school in the junior year there was a question on the final exam in psychiatry list five characteristics of a good psychiatrist i wrote crazy as hell five times [Music] i was called in yeah the politburo they threatened to flunk me and i didn't say blank by the way okay would you like me in this blank blank blank blank blank course again next year you bastards yeah they didn't dare flunk me i have never changed my mind i would say in my opinion 99 percent of psychiatrists are crazier than any patient i've ever seen so i don't believe in and will not allow mood drugs i don't care whether it's a tranquilizer or an antidepressant actually there are four major scientific articles one even in the new england journal of medicine supposedly our most prestigious journal is say if all the negative results on anti-depressant drugs had been allowed to be published the net result would be zero well the pharmacal mafia refuses to allow publication of 75 of all negative results from every drug not just antidepressants so i think the pharmacal mafia is truly a major part of the evil empire interesting uh looking i was looking through some of the trainings you've developed one that stood out to me that i'd like to know more about it's past life therapy tell me a little bit about ah yes i grew up in a conventional southern methodist church pretty conventional stuff but i never had the idea of possible of reincarnation one way or the other in 1972 i was at a meeting in virginia beach and i heard that there was going to be a demonstration of this therapy so i i went in and watched it being done and i said well i've got to do that i i but i can't do it in front of all these people i said maybe i was a prostitute in the greek war camp i i that's never come up so i don't think it would but so i said i asked uh the presenter if i could have a private session and he did a past life session with me and i saw myself as a physician in egypt 3 000 years ago in a choral epidemic and immediately after that i began to do past life therapy on patients i have done hundreds and hundreds of them in fact i sometimes doing a group session where each person in in up to 200 people can be having the same experience or their their individual course experience and in serious illness especially the most serious illnesses almost always there's what i call unfinished business from a death in a previous life now i personally know 30 in my own past lives going back now 3500 years and they have been confirmed by excellent intuitive individuals and half of them i just they i know them spontaneously so uh anytime somebody is not responding even to our basic holistic approach i offer them a past life therapy session it takes an hour and it can be amazingly healing i can give you many examples i mean i've had people literally with one session like that get well from cancer or severe intractable pain wow it's amazing i you know i i don't know about all that stuff i do know that as a parent each one of my children arrived here with a unique personality a unique skill set and you know you talk about nature versus nurture and you know i say 98 of who they are is how they arrived and i don't that you know where did that come from where did those skills come from where did those talents come from that type of thing almost inevitably when you really look into it you've had lives together before i know for instance my entire three children and my wife and i were a family just like that 2 000 years ago in rome wow that's amazing and i know everything that happened in that life to the family now we haven't always been together we've had times when i was just like i was a twin with my daughter we were both male in japan was and i and the other son and the other and my daughter etc have had lives together when we weren't a family together the only family we've had other than this one was 2 000 years ago but it's true of all your friends too i mean statistically speaking if we really got into it the chances are we've known one another in previous life in fact one of my favorite is edgar casey you know who casey was i do not know okay there's a book called the sleeping prophet or there is a river another one a man named edgar casey back in well the early part of the last century he died in 1944 five he was a psychic he did almost 15 000 psychic readings on people and he was thought to be 80 plus percent accurate in giving a medical diagnosis and treatment program and my favorite quote from edgar casey is every time you walk down the street you pass someone you've known in a past life now i know not only for instance about my experience with my wife and my three kids but for instance my current partner dr sergey sorin we were together with saint francis of assisi 800 years ago and the saint francis is reincarnated i was given a lecture up in vancouver back in 2005 and had nothing to do with past life therapy the reincarnated saint francis was in the audience he came down to he recognized me as one of his companions really and we've become friends in this life again now interestingly he is a neurosurgeon the only other neurosurgeon i know you know what meditation is but he has he has agreed i have met the other three closest companions there were four of us three of us went to assisi in 2015 to visit the temple instead and in the basement where his casket is in the is actually up in the wall down on the floor there are brass plaques with the names of the four closest companions i was for instance father rufino but i have met the other three and we're now friends again in this life wow that's amazing uh i we could spend hours talking about that um and i'm just i have a tally here 36 books uh you have uh the book 90 days to self health it sold more than a hundred thousand 130 000 copies uh television uh appearances radio appearances you have a pain management institute how do you find time for all this i i mean it's just i feel like we all have the same time in the day but somehow you've managed to to do so much already you know i was something of a nerd all the way through medical school i would say all my time was spent studying and learning i i i had exercise but other than exercising eating and sleeping i would say you know at least 16 hours a day i was studying and now i get up at four o'clock every morning i spend two hours exercising physically then i have breakfast then i either go to the clinic and see patients or if i don't some days i just work at home but when i'm working at home i'm writing or reading i have read well over fifteen thousand books and i i just i love writing and i love reading so other than gardening and exercising that's my favorite activity wow so does that mean there's more books on the horizon that we can watch i've got a couple in in the hopper right now yes absolutely and any any particular focus that you've been focusing on on chronic pain is that still your emphasis are you you've been guided in other directions well also but actually the latest one food i'm i've got to polish a little bit is the will of the soul i think it's extremely important to recognize that we are not just a human being we have a body we have a mind we have a motion but we as an individual are a soul and we communicate with god and the divine through the spirit so it's about that aspect which is critically important to me um and i'm just in the process of finishing one called restore common sense in my experience common sense is the uncommon commodity that's right yeah yeah yeah we say common sense but that's not really what we're referring to we're referring to uncommon sense for sure uh exactly yeah doctor it's been such a pleasure getting to know you i wish we had more time but thank you so much for sharing your life experience your expertise i think you've given us some great advice and a lot to think about well thank you now i'm going to offer your audience something yes if they if they would like a copy of autogenic training all they have to do is send me an email just say send me a copy okay and i will i'll send it it is in my opinion the single most important thing you can do to train your brain so norm normsheeley.com and i'll be happy to send them a copy of autogenic training my favorite doctor that's fantastic i love your desire to help people i know that you've changed the lives of tens of thousands of people probably hundreds of thousands when you look at your books and your television appearances uh keep going strong it's been a real pleasure my pleasure thank you blessings once again i want to thank dr sheeley for joining us and for his years of helping people with chronic pain it really is amazing when you think about it to hear how many people had absolutely given up before they turned to him and got real help it's easy to understand why he has been named a patient preferred physician my name is jay mcfarland and i hope you've enjoyed this edition of patient preferred presents [Music] [Music] you
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