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The Minimalists Open up About Mental Health
Joshua & Ryan discuss mental health, Josh's recent depression and how it can be caused by diet. Watch “Maximal” episodes of The Minimalists Private Podcast exclusively at http://patreon.com/theminimalists
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now now September for me Ryan has been a a hard month and thankfully I have a simple relationship with Beck um it's it's not simplistic absolutely it is not is that what you were going to say yeah yeah it's it's not a simplistic relationship it is intentional and uh it it is curated but I've had a really hard time and beex has been really supportive so I've tried to so I won't get into too deep on the the uh you know if you've been listening to this podcast for a while I've had a bunch of health problems the last two and a half years and uh finally really dialed them in July and August two best months of my life cuz I cut down to only eating five foods uh I was eating meat and greens and coffee and chocolate and what was the other thing water I think um oh fats like oils that was it um and in September I I started like reintroducing some some carbs back in because I I I knew that long term I didn't want to be on you know a full carnivore diet or whatever it's been really useful and radically reducing inflammation um but I wanted to bring more plants back into my life and in doing so it made me really sick and and and I've actually heard this uh from people um I got really depressed last week man and I don't I don't use that word I don't in fact I don't think I've ever used that word to describe my emotions I'm sorry dude um why didn't you call me well yeah I I was I mean I talked to Beck about it and you got someone to talk to yeah and depression is like I depression is no joke dude well I depression is worse than sadness to me oh way worse yeah in fact I it's worse than despair like I felt despair in the past and and the reason I don't use depression and I don't take it lightly is both of my parents were clinically depressed my mother was a depressive my father was a manic depressive schizophrenic and and so there's certainly a lot of like family history with that and I've never been a person who experiences depression over the last couple years I've experienced despair because I'm like man I'm never going to heal I've got all these inflammation problems my back problems my gut problems the sea diff all of these problems that I had and I felt despair like oh there's no hope for the future kind of thing but I never got into this this crippling depression and there was a day last week where I'm just like I do not want to be alive anymore like I I I just damn dude it was I've never felt those depths before is it um is it a symptom of everything of the health problems bleading up or was it just a feeling of dep like were you depressed because of the health problems or did the health problems lead to you all of a sudden just being depressed does that question make sense it does I I think it was I it has more to do it's it's hormonal so bringing these certain foods back in and with my certain gut issues that I have it changed the you the chemical makeup of my body and and and doing so it made things that before would have been annoying or saddening or frustrating in it Amplified them to the point where I felt like stuck and felt like everything was pointless and it was a really dark place to be in I feel like things are pointless all the time it's not a depressive feeling though it's actually kind of a freeing feeling about how we give so many things this these meanings but it's like I'm going to be dead in 50 years dude like yeah well and and that's the problem is is I'm like well I'm going to be dead in 50 years why not just be dead now yeah it it's it's yeah and uh I've I've never never felt what I felt last week and it was a combination of of of certain things and and feeling stuck um and and it had to do with the the chemical makeup of you know and so I talked to my doctor and he's like yeah well go back to what you were eating and then very slowly reintroduce things CU I was trying to introduce a bunch of things at once basically like all right I'm ready to start taking back on some of these these carbohydrates No No Junk no processed foods like my diet is pris but let's incorporate some of these things back in and as I did that like it put me into this downward spiral and it was really rough and I I'm I'm definitely not all the way out of it but there was a there was a a period of a week where it was like I'm feeling like like I there was one day I looked at back I said I literally feel like I woke up on the wrong side of the bed damn it dude I feel like I feel like just a lot of times you were like oh my god I've never felt healthier that I'm so depressed well and it's like and it made me even more depressed cuz I'm like oh man maybe I just should have why I'm so stupid I can't believe I brought these Foods back in I was feeling so great and now I'm doing this like I did this I self- sabotaged and like um and what I realized cuz I was back in Missoula when this happened I what I realized is there was I there's a whole lot of trauma that I associate with with Missoula like really absolutely wow because the peak of my health problems where I thought I was dying remember October 201 I thought I was dying and then I every time I go back to Missoula now I feel there there's a trauma attached to that so uh I'm reaching out to my therapist and and we're going to have some conversations about it um I've worked with a therapist through nourish balance Thrive and um we're going to have some conversations about it and and better trying to better understand like how to in fact what I love to do because neither one of us we both of us have a lot of trauma in our childhood and and the funny thing is like there are some things that should be traumatic that aren't traumatic to me because I don't associate trauma with it right but there are other things that like we can associate like I can't believe the lights came on in the during the middle of the podcast and there's some sort of trauma there and for me like that's the other thing that made me depressed being back in Missoula where I was like this everything is going great in our lives right now we just signed a big deal I can't talk about yet but like our next big project that I'm looking forward to uh sharing with the world world like that was great The Today Show and Megan Kelly are coming out to our houses this weekend to like film us and and I'm back in Missoula this beautiful place and like all these things I'm like if if I were to like objectively look at the pro and con list my column of Pros is just like boom boom boom boom boom boom everything is great but I feel this way I feel a completely and that that actually made it feel made me feel more despair like everything's going really well and I feel bad yeah and it's not I even wanted all of these things to happen or anything it's not like I was striving for them it's just good things are happening missou is a beautiful place but I have a certain amount of trauma associated with that place and I need to work that out yeah dude the other thing too man and you know I'm not a therapist dude you are the type of person that well dude when when at the end of 2014 when your health issues really started to kick in during tour MH um at the end of tour I'm like dude like you need to take a month off and you're like yeah I need to take a month off mhm and then like you took the month of December off and I remember you calling me and you're like yeah I was pretty much going to kill myself not doing anything yeah so you are this type of person who you will fill your plate up as much as you canh and you know if it's too little you don't feel good MH and if it's too much you don't feel good right so it is this constant balance of trying to cuz you just listed off all these Pros that's a we got a lot of Pros going on yeah we got a lot of Pros going on so maybe that's something to think about too is like is there anything we need to take off our plates man right you know I mean that might be I don't know no you're absolutely right and being willing to let go of any of those things so that you can can Thrive we AB I mean anything that that's the thing we say no to so many other like wonderful opportunities right now like thankfully we have the vice president of no over here Mr podcast Sean he's allowed to say no to everyone for us it makes things easier for us um hey you have a project you want work with us on just send us an email so podcast Sean can tell you no and it's not that we don't want to do it it's just we don't have the bandwidth I mean yesterday how many do we I get at least one email a day or a tweet hey I got something I want to work with you I want to partner up with you on it's like wish I could say yes to all 400 requests I get a year even even even with our own team yesterday I mean Jessica whom I love and she has a bunch of great ideas I had to say no to her on about four different things she wanted to work on yesterday cuz I'm like I just and it's just me being honest look I don't have the band with to do that I would love to do that um I just know that in order to say yes to that I'm going to say no to something else that I've already said yes to
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You're awesome guys! we are here for you, remember that. I have depression and social anxiety, but life keeps going.
A good antidote to depression is aerobic exercise. The extra oxygen in your body and everything helps raise your endorphins – so it's a kinda chemical thing. Joggigng is good. DANCING IS AWESOME. I read this book called "Dancing in the Streets' and the author/researcher discovered a link between nation-wide depression in Europe (17th century) following the church authorities' crackdown on festive dancing and carnivals. Plus there were massive suicides. Also in Native American culture they say that to stay healthy, you need to 'dance your power animal.' So you pick a totem animal that you want to relate to or aspire too and dance to music and let your power animal escape and express itself through dancing.
According the World Health Organization, depression is the FIFTH LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH.
If you have a depression please read a book that heals your inner child… i got a depression but after i cure my wounded inner child and go to hypnotheraphy i started getting better… 2019 is my year, and i hope you guys too… please dont thinking that you are alone !
Have you ever been tested for Mast Cell Activation Syndrome?
Josh, thank you so much for opening up and being vulnerable by sharing your mental health challenges. Vulnerability is a huge strength in people and sharing can inspire others who suffer in silence. I hope you find contentment and freedom from the thoughts that depression can stir up. Kudos! 💜
Thanks a lot for sharing, i find a lot value in your work, i appreciate that you guys keep the message with real examples, ups and downs that are part of life. Josh I wish you the best and hope you feel better soon,
Thank you so much for sharing this. I think talking about mental health and our challenges is really important. When you’re following your dreams and enjoying life, and also have health problems, it can be hard to manage and balance the two. Thank you for sharing.
This resonates so much, brilliant video. Need to start filling my plate up less and start saying no
Did you see the Documentary "WHAT THE HEALTH" from http://www.whatthehealthfilm.com ?
On YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL2cLhOqPsE
I feel so sad 😥 sometimes, but I keep holding on. Stay strong J , the world needs your message .
Thank you so much for sharing, Josh. I watch you and Ryan on YouTube often and always leave feeling better about life. I really appreciate the both of you immensely. I can relate to the health issues since I suffer from Hashimoto's disease. Just feeling crappy and achy every day leaves me depressed and full of fatigue. Having tried positive self talk, therapy, diet changes, etc., I have found the most peace when being good to myself – being positive about life even though I don't always feel good and nature walks with my dog – life definitely has its ups and downs, but today I choose to not beat myself up about always beating myself up (if that makes any sense). Keeping my life simple helps – and I have you and Ryan to thank for planting that seed in my life. I will pray for peace and healing for you, Josh. Thank you for being so real xo
Thanks for sharing your problems with your mental health. It is so important to hear that you are human and feel your emotions very strongly, you described your depression t with such eloquence. With my client's in therapy I always refer to the words of Robin Williams from the film Good Will Hunting', 'You can only feel the good times when you have experienced the low times'. This quote really opens whole different meaning to a therapy session.
Wow. Thank you for sharing. This resonates with me for sure! I have struggled with food sensitivity/inflammation symptoms for years and I believe it is connected to anxiety and depression. I too have a wonderful life, but have struggled with depression off and on the last couple of years. This has inspired me to reevaluate my diet. Thank you for your vulnerability.
What I've learned this year that resonates so much with what Josh said: Mental controls physicial, and physical controls mental. So if you're experiencing mental health issues, the way to tackle that is thru physical means (diet, exercise, sleep), and vice versa. If you aren't happy with your body or have physical sickness, the way to improve that is thru mental exercise (meditation, gratitude, journalling, stress management, sleep). Yes – sleep is on both sides of the equation 🙂
I've been researching MTHFR, oxalates and low sulfur issues since developing autoimmunity. It's a long road to better health but keep trucking.
Great and honest talk! 🙂 How did you get over some of your trauma?
I had a very similar experience with reintroducing foods after carnivore for 4 weeks. I feel for you because I too didn't do one thing at a time either and had the worst anxiety and then felt very depressed and in a funk I could not get out of. It took me a while to realise it was the food. I still don't know what caused it. On a side note with depression in your family have you checked yourself out for the MTHFR gene? I have recently found out I have 2 of the genes (ancestry.dna and then ran it through Prometheus). For me this explains a lot of health issues I have.
Jesus is the only thing that truly makes life worth living. Prayers for ya depression feels worse than can be explained I’ve been there I feel ya.
Of all the things you have shared, opening up about mental health is what means the most to me. In New Zealand we have an extremely high rate of suicide and mental health issues.
You guys are amazing. Thank you for openly discussing this difficult topic. Too many people suffer in silence. That dark place is all consuming, and for some, impossible to escape. But we are all are connected by the shared experience. Not alone. This was a touching reminder that we are all just human beings, trying to get by.
I seriously love you guys and your friendship. You are so lucky to have an aged friendship like you have. That is so important. I am from Middletown Ohio so I was an instant fan anyway but your ability to connect, is icing on the prevertebral cake!
Thank you for sharing this, I'm sure it will help some people to come foward and talk about mental health . Hope your feeling better, depression always passes and better time will come again.
Joshua, thank you for being so open about your feelings. I love your story about your mother praying the rosary…. I know your mother is still praying for you. She would want you to stay strong… She must be proud of you… I hope you go to Mass and do the sacraments… It will be a joyful experience for you if you haven't been. Your mom probably would love this too. You are so inspirational and touch Millions and your life means so much to so many…. You are so gifted….. Just remember as the priest said, "Jesus, you are the greatest gift from God. " Also, " Give thanks in all circumstances, for it is the will in Christ Jesus." My family loves both of you so much. God Bless you and Ryan too always.
Thanks for being so open.
I am so glad you guys are talking about this. It's a reality for many of us but something that's kept in the dark. Thank you for talking about it
I've started the diet investigation journey and am finding similar connection with depression and carbs
I look back at decisions and behaviour from my past could have been influenced by what i had eaten.
It's refreshing to watch podcasts like this and see that I'm not alone
Please try black seed oil for your health issues ❤️
Thank you, thank you, thank you. <3
Therapy is going to help immensely ♥️ Hoarders will struggle with anxiety & depression too…I struggle with the anxiety part but I am getting better. I will pray for healing Josh! You are and inspiration to all ♥️
I am so glad that you are working with a therapist. Trauma sucks as does Chronic pain. I am a certified peer counselor on a Crisis Prevention and Intervention Team. I can relate.
Thanks for sharing, as someone dealing with depression I found this useful. Also makes me think if what I'm eating could contribute to my depression in any way. Keep being great guys!
Josh, thank you for opening up. We love you and wish you to feel good and joyful. You are a beautiful soul and we need you. Hugs.
Been here! That dark place is frightening. So Beware! Much more than food. Watch out for everything that touches your body. Gluten is in shampoo, lotion etc.
Take care 💞xo People like us are meant to help others with these food/health issues 👍
My boyfriend got really annoyed with all of my decluttering and minimalist thinking. He said that if I truly mastered myself I should be able to focus no matter what's around
Such good buddies. Keep it real always guys. Long time follower– prior mental health worker & teacher here. Thanks so much for the motivation to be minimal , reduce stress and live my good life.
so inspirational🙏🏻