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How To Manage Your Health & Use Holistic Health Practices Ft. Veronica Max
Today we're sitting down with Veronica Max. Veronica is a holistic nurse practitioner and the founder of UltraPersonal Healthcare, a concierge healthcare practice that prioritizes the sovereignty of the individual. Today, we talk about holistic health and what it means, where traditional medicine has gone wrong, and how to start working towards complete health.
✨ Chapters:
[00:00] Healthcare Options and Personal Health Journey
[05:24] Exploring the Limitations of the Medical System and the Importance of Self-Advocacy
[08:58] Importance of Book Recommendations and Avoiding Unnecessary Healthcare Procedures
[09:42] Preventative Screening and the Risk of Medical Intervention
[12:07] Risks of Preventative Screening
[13:30] Personal Decision to Avoid Preventative Screening
[27:41] Homeschooling and Criticisms of the School System
[33:19] Impact of Schooling on Self-Perception
[37:12] Non-Traditional Education and Challenging Societal Norms
[43:02] Transitioning to a More Natural Lifestyle
[52:05] Various Healing Modalities and the Benefits of Raw Milk
[56:05] Making Raw Milk Ice Cream and Buying Raw Milk
[57:28] Source and Safety of Raw Milk
[58:41] Home Birth and Overcoming Fear of Childbirth
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most people don't even know that they have that power because they've been brainwashed from birth and I think that's where it starts I'm going to say something controversial you've got to be so careful about opting into the system it is sustainable you just have to make some systematic changes I have talked to a lot of doctors off air that will not say this on air if you would have told me that Michael would be on a podcast passionate about grounding non toxic deodorant Tallow on his face non-toxic cleaning supplies and he would be excited to talk to a guest about it I would have said you're crazy four years ago this is a big deal no here I am he's evolved I'm an evolved man I can see that I want to get a little bit of context on your story Veronica tell us your background and how you even wanted to go into this profession like give us give us the the childhood Spiel um you know I grew up um Suburban middle class nothing super interesting my dad I feel like was very open-minded though and then out-of the-box thinker he was an entrepreneur um and um I was just always I was an athlete growing up from a very early age and um you know I had some health issues first acne um which I went to a dermatologist and you know I I don't know why but I asked about food I just suspected that that must be involved I also had geographic tongue um from a very very early age which is where like um taste buds fall off of your tongue and so I was just wondering if these things were connected and I asked you know the dermatologist abouty you know should I not eat chocolate I think I'd pick that up somewhere or dairy like oh no no no you know diet food doesn't have anything to do with your skin here's some birth control um you know it just did make sense to me right and then prescribing different um medications that made created other symptoms and didn't really solve the issue uh and So eventually I address that through I continue to do research um and eliminate things for my diet and um you know my acne improved significantly and then just other things that came up in my life from you know playing sports and wanting to optimize um my health and wellness and my performance I played college basketball um had ankle sprains found Prolotherapy that was before PRP existed um and so rather than have surgery I ended up doing Prolotherapy and that you know cured my you know chronic ankle sprains and Ankle issues and then um you know from there it's just been kind of a a a an evolution of you know um my journey and finding not just how to be um physically healthy but really understanding that emotional health is a part of that before we started the show and you know and I should mention that we work with you for our family's health and our health um why do you think in the healthc care space which you're obviously in people go to the nuclear option first and what I mean by that is you know you have an illness and it's it's you know this prescription or this surgery or like before you know I told you I had a friend came to me and he was talking about hormones and the first thing was like hormone replacement therapy and I was like well there's maybe young guy and I was like there's maybe 18 other things to try before that like it's not like it's critical that you do the other like if all those options exhaust maybe but it wasn't even presented to him that there's maybe a bunch of other things you could do first does that make sense absolutely I mean I think it starts with you know most Healthcare Providers aren't aware that there are other options they're only educated on the pharmaceutical options and you know there's a lot of uh opinions on why that is I mean I we can be very direct and you know it's I think it's well known that a big Pharma right funds a lot of um medical education uh so I think that's part of it and then also it's you know there is responsibility on the consumer too right I think a lot of people want a quick fix they want a here's testosterone you know and that's going to now you're going to have more energy and recover faster Etc when you went into your practice I it seems to me and you can speak to this that you were sort of doing what you were supposed to be doing in the medical field and then you saw that there was something missing and you made a pivot is that what happened yeah I mean I I entered the medical field so I had a uh my first degrees in Biochemistry and I thought I wanted to be a doctor um and and then I realized I wait a second I've I've always wanted lots of kids I knew I wanted like four kids like I just and my dad was an entrepreneur and thought maybe I wanted to own my own business someday and it just didn't make sense to me as a as a woman and you know someone who wanted to be a mother to invest that much time you know in investment in my schooling and so then I wasn't sure what I wanted to do and um I came back around to okay I do i' move to Austin at that point I do want to be in the health industry you know what's the fastest way for me to do that and stay in Austin and so I um and then also what's a little bit more holistic route so I found you know the nurse practitioner role um and um yeah so I worked in I think I always just you know talking about my story just had a more open-minded kind of view of things and knew that you know even when the doctor tells you oh well you know food doesn't matter here's a prescription that just never made sense to me so I I came at it from an open mind um but I definitely saw having worked in you know hospitals here um that uh just the way that the insurance just the way the whole model works it does not Foster health I'm hesitant whenever we do these episodes there's I want to always say like there's a lot of great doctors out there and I don't want to like blanketly say that like don't trust doctors there's definitely amazing doctors out there but I think some of the frustration with us and I'm sure some of our listeners and just the world in general is that is what I was talking about earlier it's like the there's there's it's the nuclear option first before talking about some of the stuff that we discuss on this show and I think that has put the world in a in a dangerous space because we we've kind of gotten away from some of the more natural maybe Eastern approaches that that are that are also options I just feel like you are the perfect person to let it rip on on how we need more holistic Eastern options in healthcare like like when you said earlier like they're just not taught I wonder I just wonder why they're not many taught about some of these things so I believe and I've come to this through my own you know um my own healing journey and a lot of emotional um work and Trauma work but I believe that each of us has an innate healing capacity right and so um the system like you know when you when you opt into the medical system when you decide to engage with the medical system at that moment you are giving up your power and you are you saying that okay you the expert whoever the doctor whoever you're engaging with in the medical system please save me from you know whatever my issue is and you know you're the expert you know more about it than me so can you please save me so you're not taking the power into your own hands and becoming your own your own Advocate and your own Guru you're you're you're giving you're giving the ball to someone else correct and most people don't even know that they have that power right well I because they've been brainwashed from birth and I think that's where it starts that's one reason why I'm so passionate about um home birth and you know all of the other options I mean I don't care what you do as long as you know because I don't think there's a right choice for everyone but there's what you know there's what's right for you I think women need to know about all of their options but that's one reason why I'm so um uh a big supporter of home birth is because I think that birth is the moment that so many people opt into the medical system and the brainwashing that I need somebody else to save me from my health issues it makes sense I mean and and the way that sometimes you're given a diagnosis is so matter of fact that it's intimidating like to say there's nothing else you can do about this except this is I mean it's a little bit problematic it's like you don't have any options a diagnosis in and of itself is super problematic cuz I mean you guys know you're successful entrepreneurs your thoughts create your reality so when someone tells you then that hey you have um you know I don't bipolar disorder right you're you're you've got a mental illness and you need this medication to fix you and then you fixate on the fact well oh I've this I've got I've got a mental illness I'm Ill and you're going to create that Michael do you want to speak about what you're reading right now because this is so I will say but our friend um Dr Conover basically has a saying this is like the DI diagnosis becomes the disease in many cases um I'm reading Lou hey how to heal your life yeah yeah Lauren wanted me to read she's super passionate about me reading I'm really passionate about him reading it because it's exactly what you just said in our marriage Lauren gives me book recommendations and I read them and then I give her book recommendations and she doesn't read them I I per the recommendations I we had another doctor come on the podcast and he said that uh there was a woman that wanted to get a brain scan and he was like Dr why why do you want this brain scan and she's like I just want this brain scan for peace of mind so she gets the brain scam and there's like a little something in the brain little calcium but little calcium deposit and then she has such bad anxiety that she has the calcium deposit in her brain that she goes and she wants to get it removed so she gets it removed out of her brain and that caused a huge host of issues had she just have not even gone there to begin with it it's just like it's kind of like it a momentous spiral well again it's about opting into a system and then it's just like birth when you opt into a hospital birth and there's all kinds of interventions that come with that and then there are consequences to those interventions that often aren't talked about so you know you bring up preventative screening a lot of my patients you know um have means and they're interested in these pruvo scans and these preventative scans you know and I'm all about having the power to do what you want in with your health right and having that be an option to you um but I'm conflicted about that and this is exactly why because I see a lot of um you know anytime we uh scan something there's a lot of you know incidental findings and then but the problem with that is well that creates more medical intervention so what do you do I mean it's a good question for me I think that's a question for each individual for me that means I don't I I don't think I'm interested in ever doing a full body preventive screening you know what I'm not either I'm not interested in that I I completely agree with you and I've thought about this a lot I think that it's just looking for something and I also think you have to be careful with those scans that what you find doesn't become your identity there you go like if it start it's almost like some people are searching for like a layer of identity with it have you found that or there or it's a that they have this belief inside of them that something is wrong with them and they're going to find that right like almost like if they identify it then they can fix the thing right so and this gets into so there's like so many layers of this and it gets so complex and that's where like I said you can't separate the physical from the spiritual and the emotional like people just feeling unsafe in their bodies I mean I see it's like a I mean so many people are so anxious and are feel so unsafe um because they have I mean we all have trauma right and that it hasn't been it's living in their subconscious and it hasn't been addressed and so they go if they have this idea well I feel unsafe I am I am I'm safe something's wrong with there there is something wrong right and maybe it's just the the trauma that they haven't processed but they go look for it in ways that you know they go searching for control okay let me do this scan I can find you know prevent you know this bad outcome with cancer and there are incidents right of um finding brain cancer for instance in a 30-some year old woman right that they wouldn't have found had they not done the preventative screening um but I think those incidences are a lot more rare than the harm that actually comes from all of these things I'm going to say something controversial okay you do it I have talked to a lot of doctors off air that will not say this on air and you don't have to agree or whatever but I have heard that some of these scans actually cause things specifically the mammogram I've heard a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ] off air about how the mammograms squishing and squeezing and manipulating your breast isn't great is there radiation in a mamogram there is radiation involved there I mean there there are studies and I think um what's the is it Dr Connelly do you you all familiar with her she's a cancer expert more holistic cancer expert but I think she posted something about this recently um you know there are studies that it actually um increases your I want to be careful about saying this but increases your risk of breast cancer these preventative screenings I I feel like it was Switzerland or there's some European country that actually doesn't recommend them because it you know if anything it didn't decrease um you know outcomes mortality from breast cancer so what if you don't mind me asking what do you do when it comes to that you're a woman you're so I'm not yet I'm just I'm turning 30 I'm turning 40 this year foret how old I am but I'm I'm not interested in um and and a mamogram I don't plan to do that now some of my patients do ultrasounds you know some of my patients op to do ther thermography I don't know that I'm really interested in any of it I don't know that I'm interested in getting a colonoscopy actually I'll just go ahead and say I'm not um that doesn't mean that's the right decision for everyone but um for me and my risk factors and How I Live I'm and and again it's just you've got to be so careful about opting into the system this show is filled with morning routines and one of the things that's in my morning routine that I have not been able to live without for the last eight years in running is me drinking my ag1 I drink it every single morning when I wake up with a heaping glass of water this makes me feel hydrated energized I get my daily vitamins and nutritions my Prebiotic my probiotic all in one place first thing in the morning 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these things can start to happen in the first place like one of the things I was telling my buddy I was like okay well you're drinking Municipal tap water and you have all these phet in the house and all these bad cleaning supplies like maybe get rid of all that before and and I think what the problem is is we we have these things that we're doing that we don't realize are so unhealthy we talk about about a lot of these things on the podcast and if you can kind of eradicate some of those things maybe some of these other things don't become as necessary and what he said to me is like oh that's not sustainable like to not drink that water or to not use those clean I go what do you like of it is sustainable you just have to make some systematic changes it is and it honestly it really doesn't have to and and I think it goes even so much deeper than that but you're clearly on to something right it's not that there's something wrong with our body our body isn't malfunctioning and breaking down we live in a very toxic modern environment and that's the chemicals you know that's in our water and and Plastics that's you know surrounds our food but it's also you know the fact that most people are indoors 90% of the time you know they're on screens and under these artificial lights um after dark like that's not how humans lived for millions of years and to think that that's um that we're going to be healthy in those situations is just um not not in my house not because you know what this [ __ ] tries to turn on a light in my house at night after 700 and my daughter now says to him she goes ew dad that hurts my eyes she's like we have blue eyes no but you it's funny because you guys maybe aren't as into maybe the measurement and I I kind of go back forth this but we did live in LA and I would say our environment was like all it was like all the bad stuff all the all the stuff that we were doing not just the city just the way we were living like you can live well in that City but we were just not and I since I'd argue that you can't even live well in the city in a city I would argue maybe the same thing I just don't want to [ __ ] on La so much but we you know I had blood work and physicals done there and I've had since I've been here the same thing and my markers have gotten better and better and better as we've made these changes and changed our environment and I've gotten older and older right and so to me it's like okay there's the reason I'm so on board with this stuff now is like I'm a data driven person and I see the data in my own blood work over the years after making these changes and like hormones are better blood works better health better more energy better sleep all these things and it's not just because you know we're working out a little bit it's like it's the whole environment shifted and changed yeah that makes sense absolutely I wanted I was attracted to as as a doctor for our family because I feel like you are neutral in all different kinds of areas like you're you're open to different ideas and you don't close close it off do you actively work at that is that something that you thought about how did that come to fruition yeah like I said it really started with my dad you know my dad had plenty of um flaws um but I loved my dad and he was an extremely um open-minded person uh and he uh did not trust Authority uh at all and so I think that's where where it really comes from is a distrust of authority um and a willingness to take responsibility for um my health and you know when it comes to my patients you know providing them with all of the options that are because because really I when I you know I talk a lot about sovereignty and Healthcare and what I mean by that is that you know um sovereignty is having uh the power to make just all the power that someone else doesn't have the power over me I have the power and the respons and 100% of the responsibility over me in my domain right and so I believe that everyone else should have that too or at least that option to choose that and in healthcare that means that it I view it as my job to provide you with um all of the you know available treatment options for any thing that you're deal any symptom that you're dealing with and the risk and benefits of those treatment options um so that you can make the best decision for you or your family member I would love for you to talk about toxins in the house yeah and what your opinion is on on each thing and what your swaps are in your own home I know you're very in the grounded and earthing just talk about how you run your own house I mean first I try to be outside as much as possible um I'd love to have the windows open Etc but in Texas you know that's a little between the Heat and the bugs um that's difficult um so you know like for instance laundry detergent I use um Branch Basics um uh you know I'm not perfect with this I use Castile soap um you know we were talking about face um stuff I use Tallow um and you know my friends make a biodynamic face serum use Primal pure um uh cleanser um anything for the kids that you do that you just think is really great for toxins honestly I just leave them alone yeah um I don't they my children probably bathe maybe once a week can you talk to and they they don't use Michel Michael's a fourth Japanese he thinks they have to bathe every day can you one time we had some on and they were talking about this and when the clip went viral and they said we were abusing people I was like oh Lord they said something about privilege too I was like what I I didn't know that I didn't I did delayed bathing with both bathing with both my kits yes that's because why would you need to why are they dirty they're not dirty I want them to sit in my vagina juice yes just even just even think think of there is a thing you know where they seed like if C-section birth like uh they they put the vagina the thing went by some somehow I never really understood why people were very angry about it talk to us about how you only bathe your kids once a week I want to know more about that well first off I just let my kids do what they want to do and they don't like why I have four children I'm not going to fight with my kids over little stupid things like bathing like what's the AG again uh almost 10 s five and two you're in it so so like so you don't make them bathe every day you'll just do when they want to once a week it may if it's once a week you know like now they SW so they swim we have a pool and they swim in the summer so I guess we call that bathing so it's probably even less than that you know but no we tell it like our kids have autonomy over their bodies and their rooms assuming you know and they can make all the choices around that assuming they're safe I think that's cool zza we just read this book that my friend sent me about being the boss of her body yes and yes yesterday I I she was like acting up and I said who's the boss and she said well you are Mom but I am the boss of my body see get yes I love it so this is great and that gets difficult but like I'll tell you this my daughter this year when she started school she actually it was like the second week of school and I picked her up and you know she had been to the office like twice that day and I'm like what is going on because here I am I was like a goody to shoes in school like straight A's you know star athlete like let me just make everybody happy right and that came from a you know kind of a traumatized place but so I picked my daughter up and I'm like what like I've never been to the sent to the office or been you know disciplined like that I'm like what did she do and it's like well she didn't want to come in from the playground as when it started and then you know I tried to tell her to come in and she was saying no my body my rules I can do whatever I want you know and she just like she was leaving the classroom because she wanted to go out to play and so it gets into this you know because I want want my kids to have be a free thinker yes and to have you know autonomy and to make decisions and and deal with those consequences and that's when we you know had we we've been trying to guide her and you know well you can certainly make that decision but there you know if you want to be around your friends and class there are consequences to that and that might be that you're at you know homeschooling next year or you know next week with Mom and Dad you know and you don't get to be around your friends talk to us about homeschooling I know that you have have talked a little bit to me off air about it what what are the pros what are the cons what have you seen about it so um I never thought we'd be homeschooling our kids at all we have we have several um we started a school out in Dripping um shortly after 2020 when everything you know happened and they were masking kids at school and all of that jazz um so a couple of my kids two of my kids are are at that school um it's a waldorf you know style school and then my oldest um is at home and my husband this year has primarily been running that but like you know and we started with like a waldorf curriculum but that doesn't uh my that's Waldorf I don't know if you're familiar with Waldorf teachers but they're very um kind of more hippie-ish I guess if you're going to describe them in some way and that is not my husband at all he just has a different way of teaching so he's kind of just abandoned that and is doing his own thing but you know that looks like he's working around you know the ranch with my husband like he was was digging holes like operating the tractor and digging holes to plant trees for the orchard the other week you know he's welded uh was learning to weld like my husband had someone come over to do that you know I've got him a CrossFit in a CrossFit class with some of the his other friends he does Chu Jitsu now he just recently got into that and oh he loves it and it's this to your dad board cuz I'm going to need you to teach to how to use a tractor I want you to keep going but then yeah I have a couple thoughts on this but I want you to keep going yeah so it's just what else you know we have him in he does handwork so that's a very Waldorf thing like you know once a week he goes to uh one of his teachers has a um class out of her home where they learn to you know crochet and knit and he makes like felting stuff um and he just learned to read by the way and the reason he learned to read is because he wanted to be able to you know read Harry Potter Potter to himself and how old is he he's nine he's about to be 10 like we're not in a rush we know our kids I'm I'm an intelligent person my husband an intelligent person what's the rush your husband has a book publishing company right yes yeah yeah You' be fine my husband's a published author like it's going to be okay why are we rushing to have children read in kindergarten when they need to be playing I feel like that with all the Milestones though I like I literally have no idea when my kids first started walking if you asked me and PID me a zillion dollars I have no idea I feel like they'll all they'll get there when they get there I can't sit there and fixate on this fake Milestone that someone put on the internet and if you're anxious about that your kids's going to feel it feel it and that's going to create issues for them yeah yeah and you know I I go back and forth with this because I was terrible in school and I was the worst in the office every day wor worst K I had so many detentions that they had to convert the time to then lunch detention oh wow licked them off then they had to convert it to Saturday schools for 4our blocks and then anyways not cuz I was so bad but I just wanted to do my and anyways the reason I go back and forth and it's not my parents fault they just this is the modern school system is like that environment looking back was probably not right for someone like me no you should have been welding and doing I even look back on College and I this is going to sound really dumb I'm going to sound like an idiot but hopefully my accomplishments now speak for themselves a bit not to be arrogant but um I don't remember one thing really that I learned in college like meaning like I don't remember like what I took away from it I just remember learn angles I hope my children don't go to college I remember partying a lot I remember being there I remember sitting in classes I remember thinking the whole time I'm never going to use any of this and don't care I remember being in high school thinking to myself the only class I cared about was English and history like math you know I'm like okay I need you need to know math but like to a point I'm like I don't know what about all I just knew I wasn't going to use it and right and I just was getting in trouble all the time so I think this approach where it's like one size fits all for every kid not Health it's not healthy yeah no and I mean y'all know the origins of the school system and it's just to create obedient worker bees which then is not you want an obedient worker bee for your child no and also I don't even want an obedient worker be for any of the companies that I run I want people that are thinking and bringing you know ideas to the table and looking at what's wrong in the organization to improve it not just to like be like hey I'm going to do exactly what I'm told all the time that's a great point you know what I mean I think like in any Endeavor too you I mean I may be in some but I don't want a cog in the wheel I want someone like I don't I want Carson over there to be like hey I have a better idea or I want to do something differently or like hey we've been doing it this way but let's try it differently that's I I never want someone to just follow the rules right well that's you know I'd say um you know a lot of people want to have power over others and um the whole system really is designed to to traumatize uh children and to keep them from um themselves really and you know because I I believe so much of um the growth in my life and my journey has been uh working through my trauma and social programming to to come home to myself and to Know Myself and I hope that my CH my my children are going to have their work to do right we each have a journey that we're on but at least I'm not going to be dumping the same things onto them and I've learned a few things to where I'm not going to expose them to that system yeah I mean if I see one of my children going through school the same way that I did I'll probably look to do something cuz looking back and again I don't pass any blame and I I take accountability for everything that's happened in my life but sitting as a child for hours and hours quietly in a room with your head on a desk I little boy and having someone lecture to you that's not interesting I like he was like banned from the Disneyland trip I remember all this being I remember I was his girlfri year I banned from the Disneyland trip have to sit in oh yeah oh yeah come on I love some color anyone that's colorful I'm like come to me he he would have to literally sit there for eight hours I don't even think they gave you a book what did that do to your what you how you felt about yourself so as I've gotten older I've thought about this a lot because I kind of just I kind of just like ignored it for a long time and then I was like wait if every day you don't go to lunch with the kids okay so they say you go to school to be social but if every day instead of being social sit at a desk with your head quietly in a room and then every day after school everybody goes home and you sit an hour after and then on Saturdays you come and sit for 4 hours and then everybody goes on the school trips and you don't get to go it's like and your parents allowed this they didn't say anything they didn't ask I think they just did they were so like academic that they just didn't they didn't know oh you said you said yeah she's half Japanese straight A student straight a college all that my dad never went to college military but I don't think military is very yeah I think they just told them like yo your son is like is bad is bad and this is like the consequences and and they're and they accepted that I mean my I'm sorry Mom I'm at the end of I'm not bashing your mom or your par I'm just curious about I think it was a time when like imagine like I don't know what you're like I just don't think parents they think they just trusted the school right I I also think that as social media has given us more information we've been more open-minded and been able to grow as people they at the end of all of it they handed like I got out of all the school and there was a binder I'm not kidding it was like this thick full of just all my detentions she was so ashamed she threw him I wish she would have kept him so I could like Mom yeah I wish I could go back and like read what the hell they were for I'll tell you I'll give you like I mean thank God my dad did this like in kindergarten like I was getting in trouble every day and so my dad my parents eventually like what she's not a bad kid like what what's going on here and so they went and had a conversation with the teacher and they had her write notes like a report every day as to what you know what had been going on and she had to do that I no longer was getting in trouble because I was getting she did not she was projecting some things on me like some unres and that's what happens like some of her own unresolved issues on me and when she was held accountable to detail exactly what was going on it became very apparent that the problem was not me so like give us an example it's hard you know this is kindergarten um I think generally speaking what she was I was very much I mean I my daughter is who I was a very free kind of wild child I wasn't wild but just a free child that wanted you know very independent and that had been squashed out of her and she didn't like seeing that in me a there it is and because I've seen that mirror for me like I and I've had to reflect on that being a mother I don't want a bad child you know and I had to really evaluate that thought that immediately came wait wait a second she's not a bad child she's expressing she wants autonomy and freedom and you know and I get and that's healthy I want that in my children and so having to look at at me in the ways in which oh actually that was suppressed in me yeah because I was I was given the signal that if I uh acted in that way and was a leader and free and you know um you know just allowed to be like wild you know and and and just fully expressive that I wouldn't be loved yeah I I I can relate to that especially as a woman it's very challenging when a woman is really confident and independent and confident within her independence and it also is challenging I've noticed when I was younger too for males yeah like it's they they don't they want the woman to go back in the perfect box with the bow and if you challenge that it it it it makes them insecure no I think what I think it challenges anyone when people fall outside of like the pretty box right where it's like this is the or this is the way that this is the orderly way to do things I listen to our podcast and the way that as you know the reason I'm not angry at all about what happened with me it's like it's not like some crazy trauma people have way worse but my the way I handled that was like I'm think they were like we're going to break this guy down so that he and I was like I'm going to go the opposite way and see how far I can take it does that and so yeah no you handle and not that you should like like you're handling it in a very healthy way because it's like you can't you have no control over these things that happen to you but it's how you react to it right and it's now your responsibility to heal and you know whatever it was that happened to you yeah I and I but my I guess the Long Point is that as I've gotten older I don't pass blame on my parents but if that was going on with my child I would say okay this is probably not the right environment and you know I think whenever you talk about homeschooling or alternative schooling or not going to college people get so up in arms because the norm is like you go through the school system you go to college you graduate you get a job but that may not work for everybody it's the norm how because most people are concerned with their status in the community right and getting a college degree even even if it's you know some nonsense you know I'm not going to you I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings right but um like it doesn't status like what does that mean status from your college that you went to college no like I would prefer that my kid learns how to do something that um enriches his life you know their lives and other people's lives like having a trade or creating a business or you know whatever my godfather is a guy he graduated 8th grade and that's it and he's done really well I won't say him by name but he he uh was in an argument one day with a bunch of like ivy league lawyers and they were going back and forth about something and the guy was throwing all his degrees and whatever in face like he go he goes yeah yeah I got a bunch of you pencil pushers working somewhere in my legal department and I thought about and I just think about that because to your point like some of those people are great and wonderful and then there's people like him that don't have any kind of like real education but go and make it and it's to each his own right I don't think like I think it it there's no there's no like one size fits all and there's no like this is best for everybody it's different College may be the right choice for some people you know um but a lot of people mindlessly choose these things because it's what's expected of them or it's what brings them status or you know like you know and growing up right um vocational degrees and you know these kind of like blue color jobs were not considered high status and I think those times are changing yeah because we can reach the world now like yeah and do you want a man who's able to fix [ __ ] or you know is helpless when you know they hit a pipe and you know now your water shut off like CU and my husband's had to learn like he's made this [ __ ] like he has a JD from Duke Law School that he has never used and now he knows how he's taught himself right how to fix a pipe is that your puppeteering oh no no no not at all so he just has naturally done that yeah okay what when did you guys kind of go in that direction uh so we have to give the audience context you're married to Tucker Max who I read his book I think when I was in college yeah I hope they sered beer in Hell which turned into a movie right how did you guys meet his CrossFit coach um had trained with me in CrossFit um and uh she met him at a party one time and um you know basically he she said well this you know he was with some girl and uh she said you know who is who are you bringing to my party like this girl just she's not good enough for you and he said okay well introduce me to the girl who is and she said well I know someone but I don't think you could handle her and he said introduce me to the the girl that I can't handle and so anyways I didn't know I'd never heard of his books i' never read them that's perfect though yeah but so she textt me and she's like hey I've got you know this guy I want to set you up with his name's you know it's the Tucker it's like Tucker Max you know like I like like it's someone and I said who is that she said Google him and so I Google him and then I go to his website it's like hi my name's Tucker Max I get an appropriately drunk and you know sleep with all these women and I'm like I thought you're my friend why like why are you wanting to you know set me up with this guy and so I said no and then she kept asking like over a period of 6 months and eventually I just had nothing to do on a Saturday night and I was like okay if he calls himself an [ __ ] he must at least be funny and then I went on a double date with him and you know the rest his history did you like him right away um I did because when I met him I was like oh this he was kind of busting my balls because he um there's a whole story about he called me pretty little prepper um what is pretty little prepper so I I don't know how we got talking about it but like uh I had some like gold at that point in time and also some like physical gold yeah okay and and some uh like freeze-dried food you know that I'd bought from uh Costco but of course it was like Health you know I didn't want the prep packs that had you know TVP or like the soy base [ __ ] in it it was like you know I needed meat and vegetables and stuff so anyways I don't know how that came up but he like was totally busting my balls over that and and I I realized oh I I see who you're you're an [ __ ] because you're direct and you're honest I'm like I I got it and I can deal with that my dad was like that when you knew all of this history that he's had was it was that easy was there any bumps in the road with that you're just I don't care let's move forward I mean it wasn't like that's who he is you know that was a time like most guys are out you know he's just honest about it yeah yeah most guys are disgusting [ __ ] before they get married they just they're all dogs you guys are all disg let's not act like all the women out there are so innocent okay that's true too you are absolutely I'm not saying women aren't innocent we're just talking about guys right now I have now been privy because of this show to a lot of the conversations that you women have behind Clos I'm sat I'm in there now I'm like I hear a lot of them and I'm like in some cases it's much worse than the men I think women cheat more than men uh I don't know the data on that I know women precipitate divorce 70% of the time give that stat all the time to him to be like you never know you better be on your toes buddy your game it gives him a little like threat you know oh Michael so how long have you guys been together and how has your relationship evolved as you've evolved as a practitioner yeah no that's um we've been together what so 2013 to 11 years now wow it's a long time yeah I don't know time's kind of flown in some ways yeah um you know we've each been I mean or we say like we've had like three marriages almost like you know as we've evolved um I mean we've evolved tremendously as individuals we've both been on our own healing and growth Journeys um but we've done that together and um you know CU clearly you know I don't think you know back in 2013 we were living in a you know a penthouse on rainy Street you know I don't think we ever envisioned either of us that we'd be out and dripping on land and you know Tucker would be digging holes to plant trees in and come in covered in mud you know um wild yeah I mean he was always about no just you know hire someone else to do that work for you so you can spend time you know but there's some things actually it makes sense and feels good to get your hands dirty why do you think he was called so much to that like you know um you know I I'll speak for myself on on that one well I I can kind of speak for him too but I mean for me as I did more of my emotional healing work I just had this inner voice you know um we'd go we had we have a place in Tennessee in the mountains that we bought in 2020 um you know backs up to the Smoky Mountain National Park and um we come home to the BBS at that point we were living in like uh be you know um Barton Creek and it just like felt yucky you know um and I just had this this inner you know voice that said you cannot be separate from nature and be healthy and I didn't really know what that meant at the time um now I have more of an idea of what that meant and why um you know that gets into grounding and sun and being outside and all of and all of that but um and then you know 2020 and covid happened and it was just like screw this let's get on land um let's um become more Sovereign you know as like actually you know when we're we say we want to be Sovereign but we're living in the BBS you know buying our food Whole Foods right let's actually do it you know and we were waiting we'd kind of we'd have that inkling for a while and we were waiting for like the perfect moment to do it and eventually we just had to say tucker came home from a trip and was like I think we just you know need to do it let's do it I said okay and so we just took the dive sold our place um took us a while you know we we were without a house here for a while and um and then until we six months or so until we found the place in triping what are the bigger or biggest challenges about kind of living that way versus more Suburban City Whole Foods life gosh challenges man I mean I I would have said in the past you know like I have to commute to Austin occasionally to my to my office there um or you know but maybe challenge isn't the right word but I guess maybe the biggest differences it's like it's the conveniences that are of living in the city I mean because I had this idea even like when we moved to Barton Creek I like it's funny that I love living living further out now cuz I was kind of you know uh I didn't want to move to Barton Creek cuz that wasn't like that was out of the city to me um which is just Suburban for people who don't live in Austin um but it's just you know the idea that oh I like to go to Uchi or Ucho or you know these restaurants and you know easily be able to run to the grocery store so you just have to change the way that you think you know so when you go to the grocery store you know it's 30 minutes away so you're going to 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wasn't trying to be probing per se he's just very direct and interested and um and uh I was kind of like squirming in my seeda like later like now I can look back and I was like super I you know but also you know um interested at the same time that wow this guy's so interested in me that he's asking these questions um so on our second date then and he had told me that he'd been in therapy and so I asked him you know I said you I've been thinking about it and um you know there's some things that you know that you came up in our conversation I think I I need to probably address you know do you have any therapists that you'd recommend and that like Gob smacked him he like he you know that was shocking for him that I was actually you know going to take that kind of self reflective step um and so he'd been in in therapy at that point and that's when I started my kind of therapeutic journey and I was doing he was doing psychoanalysis and that's what I got into which is very really very intellectual um and I think that's kind of you know when it's when you're staying in your head and not connecting with your body there's limitations to you know the benefit you're going to get out of that um you know so personally and then I've you know moved on to trying um you know cranos sacral which is um breath work um and you know and then I've you know done some therapeutic work um with psychedelics and um and he has as well and all guided and facilitated right in safe settings and um and yeah and that's kind of you know and then you know Finding different you know talk therapy and therapeutic modalities like somatic experiencing and narm and internal family systems um and things like that are that are more embodied um you know and that's kind of you know been um kind of how that's gone I have to ask you off air some questions about this yeah uh before you go yeah I have to get because I've asked you this off air your take on raw milk so just to give a little background yeah um I started posting about raw milk and how much I love it it's amazing I think it's the best pre-workout cuz I put it with my coffee and it's a little bit of protein a little bit of sugar a little bit of carb yeah and it keeps me really satisfied and I noticed that I my body was craving it so then I came to you and I was like Hey like with my son I'm giving him milk can I give him raw milk and you were like Let It Rip give your give your take on this because for some reason it people think it's so weird that I would want to give my family raw real milk that's funny it's so you know it's like the circles that I run in now it's like oh that's that's the the weird thing would be to give the the pasteurized milk you know I think we're in those circles now yeah oh good um no I mean well like raw milk is the more natural version of milk with alive enzymes and you know all the things that help you digest it all the you know the the all of the reasons that you would drink milk raw milk has those things in it and it's alive right so pasteurized milk they heat it up at high temperatures and it kills all of those enzymes and probiotics and things like that and that actually makes it more difficult to digest you know like I can't drink pasteurized milk without getting a stomach ache neither can you I never drink pasturized milk well I don't I don't drink it anymore because but like if I were to have ice cream from like lick per se yeah I'm going to get a tummy ache yeah but my husband makes raw milk ice cream literally like every night and it doesn't cause me a problem wait hold on how does he make raw milk ice cream is he like milking the cow and bringing it in and churning the butter how does he do that so we get we actually our NE makes this is where Community comes in handy like so my neighbor around the um uh Sundance Farms they she she has a Jersey cow and I get my raw milk from her okay um you know it's all legal through a co-op deal here in Texas um but uh and then you know he has we have I think it's winter wh y n t r it's a machine that like freezes it you don't have to put it in the freezer beforehand it makes you know from start to finish you've got ice cream in like 30 minutes and what does he put in the ice cream it's um um raw milk heavy cream maple syrup honey vanilla salt that's it I am doing a blog post called Veronica and Tucker Max ice cream recipe with raw milk I swear that sounds so good pretty oh he does actually these these chocolate some like 90% dark chocolate that has a little bit of um toffee or something in there that he throws in the blender and then will you text me exactly the thing what should people look for when they're buying raw milk like is there anything that is a red flag to you cuz I know sometimes like it it needs to be from the right Source yeah I mean I think most people who are doing that like a small farm right that I I don't I don't know in the world that I live in I feel much safer going with a neighbor down the street who I know you know the conditions the cow's living in and and what she's doing and you know her cleanliness practices and I do some corporate entity who doesn't know me has no responsib like like say I got sick from the raw milk like she would feel horrible she would know about it and all of our community would know about it there's like very real repercussions there for her as as as opposed to like you know Purity Dairy or whatever cson yeah yeah like they don't cutson milk how do you say it is it nutson or CS we my mom every mom in the 9s had the blue nonfat milk cuds whatever the [ __ ] it's called milk and they thought nonfat milk was healthy I got turned off to that kind of milk because I had a friend who would always tell me like if you don't drink milk you're going to break your bones you're have weak bones and this guy I swear he had bird bones he would these things would snap been drilled I this guy's drinking all the milk and like his snapping left and right and so I I was like no no no it was because it wasn't raw when also we were Jing there's other things in there too but yeah I was talking to my dad and I was explaining this and he's older and you know like maybe been told that this is you know he reads the headlines like bird flu raw milk and you realize like there's actually been no cases but I digress I've had people yeah and so I was telling him like you know like when you grew up my dad's turning 80 I'm like when you grew up as a kid it was there was no such thing as raw it just called milk right it's just what it we come up with these weird terms now because there's all these new ways to but like milk was just it was just milk just like home birth was normal all babies were born at home I'm going to actually talk to you if I have another baby about home birth I think it's I actually am not that scared to do a home birth I'm more scared that my home will get messy well the cool see you didn't know this about midwives but midwives will make sure that your house is they won't leave until like laundry's done you've been fed everything's baby's breastfeeding that everything is in order wait so C could I have towns and Zaza there watching it doesn't scare them so um I invited my kids to when I had Cardinal my 2-year-old uh and it happened I like had her at like 8:00 p.m. or something and so they were in bed like they didn't they weren't that interested but no like there's all kinds of you know I've seen women having uh their babies with their younger children there and I think for women especially that's super important for children to see that that's possible it's not scary there's so much fear you know around birth and being able to witness that I mean I think that is the way that you dispel that fear that we have in society does it hurt yeah it hurts like really bad I mean I can handle pain I just want to know like on a scale I've had four kids at home so like natur yeah and I'm not some you know we like to create these stories oh well she's a you know she's a superwoman whatever because she did this you know like look at her but no like you know my first I remember having Bishop at home that was my first and had I been in the hospital hell yeah I would have asked for some pain meds like it hurt it's almost like you couldn't because of where you were so it's just like an option so I wasn't going to ask and you know what I knew I think that's part of the reason I I chose a home birth because I knew that these interventions have consequences and at home it's just not an option would you what if I had a home birth what would you do you would be so like I don't know I could would you be anxious I would have to talk I could see you pacing have to talk to Veronica for a while we'd have to do we'd have to do a couple session Tucker so the midwives actually handle you too and so he was funny like he is the type that like he doesn't you do not tell him what to do um and but like The Midwives like he realized afterwards like [ __ ] they had me like you know doing whatever they you know they were like ordering me around and I just did it and didn't even think about it and they he asked him like what you know singali stuff were you doing like like you know techniques were you using on me but they just have this way where they just kind of like whisper suggestions from the side you know in that situation I'm doing what I'm told yeah they had him you know they had him I'm not going to be like I got it guys I'm just going to do what so initially so it started with like he put his hand on me he like oh like I was going through a cont contraction he's like oh you're going to be okay and I was like get off of me like this hurts you know like I got pissed cuz you don't tell someone who's in pain it's going to be okay [ __ ] you and also like what are they doing like sitting eating their no I'm in pain and it's not okay you know and um you know and so they they got oriented him to just you know providing me with water and making coffee and being just you know and that was like that that was great that's exactly what I needed and supporting me when I needed it um you know so they'll they'll put you to work I do like the idea of not having to sleep on that shitty C that's in the hospital this is literally not about where you're I'll get you a cot and make you sleep go straight to your bed and you go to sleep poing and proding you all night long the first time like that I went to the hospital I was unprepared the second time I looked like I was camping for a week I can only imagine I showed up with all this stuff the nurse like you moving in I was like I'm not I know that c I know it's kind of not joking I'm kind of like like Michael's dying I actually am kind of like thinking about a home birth to be honest they don't really take care of the men in those hospitals of course how are you literally making this about you you know the food's not great my God I literally don't go stay in the hospital while I give birth at home all the women that are listening I just want you to know like we are sitting on that Cod and it is painful during the birth okay and it's not nice and it's cold what if you need like stitches or like they can just so I let me and I want to come back to the pain thing yes it hurts but there are things like you know you can't discount the sense of safety by being in your own home and have you know like that is that creates safety and that relieves pain being I I gave birth to all of my kids in water like warm water that relieves pain you know um and just set up like a pool in your house yeah yeah like a blow up you know birthing pool how do they get the water in uh you you have to have a special adaption for and you put a hose on the you know the sink and you you got to all this I don't know that I would like all these people in my house you can choose who's there but think about all the people in the hospital in the hospital you don't have a say on who's there at home you can say who's who you want there and who you don't want and honestly in the hospital and this is an important point and I think a lot of people don't know this in the hospital you can tell people to get the [ __ ] out oh I did okay the interns came in like the interns came in like drella and Anastasia from cind or what yeah they were like hi I'm like out yeah like people you I was like you guys want a tiny cookie I mean you like do you want a signed book he like gave me a book to sign i'm like [ __ ] get out of here I was like do you have a do you have a an upgrade on the sofa I was like a free book for anyone that's got an upgrade sofa Michel trying to work the work the system I'll do whatever I got to do uh Veronica we go to you for our fam's Medical Care in Texas we were attracted to you because I love how you pair eastern and western together and I love how you give us Choice over the direction of where we're going I don't ever feel like there's been any pressure if someone wants to work with you where can they find you I one thing I do have to say that I love about your services is I can text you whenever it's like an open Channel if I have a question you've come to my home before it's very like um personal yeah uh our website's Ultra personal. Healthcare and all the information's there yeah Instagram if they want to DM you Ultra personal. healthare perfect and go by Tucker's first book thank you Veronica thank you thanks guys
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I’m NOT not bathing. Nope.
I loved this, minus the bathing and letting kids do whatever in school 😂
Ah she’s not a doctor. Makes sense.
Bodily autonomy does not mean taking care of your child’s basic hygiene.
Everyone doesn't need a mic. Np are not doctors😂. They seem like pompous ass holes
As a child development person, I can't believe how much of the discussion about raising children was scary.
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Very strange people 😳
24:14 is where they talk about the bathing
Wow… soo much is wrong with this. Bathing once a week is insane. Especially for the 9 year old. Do they even brush their teeth🤢? Personal hygiene has nothing to do with holistic… you can still be holistic and bathe everyday. Also, I think she wants her kids to live with her forever because they will never make it in the world the way she is raising them. Neglectful, smh!
I wish more people would speak to holistic practitioners with more balanced views.
Heck, I wish we heard from any medical practitioners with balanced views- because there's shreds of things that are valid here, but it gets all tangled up in a bunch of broad strokes and takes that a stretched beyond what is reasonable. Then people dismiss an entire philosophy or lifestyle because of the worst examples of it.
I am bothered for your children's hygiene. When you let them do their thing, and you call bathing stupid??? Oh gosh.. No!!!!!
This lady is fucked up😂😂😂
Sounds about white… I mean right.😐
"Holistic nurse"? Just say Not a Doctor.
This woman is just ignorant and neglectful. 9 year old just learned to read? Is there dyslexia involved or you just can’t be assed to sit with your child so they can explore the literary world and write their own thoughts?
And what doctors are telling people that food doesn’t matter? This isn’t the 70s. People need to gain literacy in peer-reviews scientific articles to learn how to make scientific choices for their own bodies and minds. Stop listening to these harpies. Read the research yourself and teach your kids how to read and comprehend literature so they know how to do it themselves when they’re older. Keeping your kids dull-minded leads them to go “teach themselves” through anecdotes on social media.
All this bashing of the healthcare industry and no mention of medical bias affecting patient treatment, hospitals and physicians taking too long to incorporate new research into their practice and diagnoses, the integrity of the blood-brain barrier affecting all body systems….just self-inflammatory Gwenyth Paltrow-esque GOOP talk with no science behind anything. Oh, and clear child neglect. Just say you’re busy, can’t be assed and call it a day
Her dingy-self lost all credibility. How are you walking around in scrubs and not promoting bathing? Especially for little filthy kids. Bed sheets just nasty!
I'm not listening to all this, someone tell me if she vaccinates or not?
Bathing kids MAYBE Once a week 😳…. That’s 😵💫🙄🤯.
And Lauryn says kids do not get dirty? Are we living on the same planet? Kids and toddlers get awfully dirty.
Once a day is basic HYGIENE !
DISGUSTING 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
I don’t agree at all with not teaching or encouraging kids to read as early as you can. Children now are so stupid, especially American children. It’s terrible parenting to not encourage education. I am so glad that my mom made me take French when I was in elementary school and Latin when I was in middle school in high school. I’m so glad that I had a summer reading list. Because I would never have chosen that on my own as a child. And now with cell phones and social media kids are so scatterbrained. They have fallen behind in math and reading, and we fail as a nation.
And you wonder why yall wiped out civilizations with diseases. Disgusting.
What an amazing, powerful episode. Thank you 🙏🏼
Smh in Texas heat and no baths is insane. Then most of this sounds like avoidance and neglect, not holistic. 😒
So she is stupid as well as nasty alone whit the children this is nasty and sad these two women are going to ruin their children
Long time listener and this is my favorite episode!!! I had a magical homebirth, I drink and feed my toddler raw milk. A+
I checked out at Vagina juice. I liked the somewhat delayed bathing thing. Good luck with that when they’re 16. They’re GROSS and have no idea. Come on ya’ll. Extra couple few days ya’ll. And the my body my 6 year old rules is HILARIOUS. Wild whites right here. Also any dude named TUCKER MAX is an AUTOMATIC douche right there.
Her 9 year old son just started to read😳
Ya ain’t never beating the allegations 😂
I bet she reeks, i cant even imagine how her house smells…some ppl arent meant to be parents, i feel bad for the kids 😢
I’m here for “bathing once a week” part lol
Girl wash those kids private parts…their underarms….they poop, pee, and sweat. Being outside all day, your face is dirty. And if you have a girl, you know how their panties can get
Zou bisou bisouuu….Zubi Zubi Zooooo….i approve of this interview.
You can thank Kev on stage for this view. I have been screaming at my phone watching this lady verbalize normalizing trifling. What in the whole hell is she talking about? Can you imagine if a nation of people did this NOT BATHING NONSENSE ? We are not living in the stone ages and then to top it off, she has the audacity to wear her nurse practitioner scrubs with her name on it!!! This is absolutely disgusting! How can her medical opinion be trusted when she doesn’t even understand the necessity of hygiene ??? I am floored!!! WOW! Just WOW.
No hygiene that’s how the plague started and Covid spread…